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    My Round 8 Preview and Prediction

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    3 hours ago, dee-tox said:

    Swans with  +1  means I'm tipping against the Dees for the first time this year!

    This is a very strange way to make a prediction, Monsieur Tox. 
    I’m not sure why every factor you mentioned is weighted the same. Ie, 1.

    And as for the Swans love beating us on the MCG as a factor, I could easily counter with the Demons love beating the Swans on the MCG. And add, the Demons are desperate to stay on top of the ladder.

    Now you may be right, but this is a strange way to figure it. 

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    POSTGAME: Rd 07 vs North Melbourne

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    1 hour ago, Wells 11 said:

    Petracca is having a great year. I don’t mean to downplay his importance but he’s also not beyond criticism. His set shot kicking for goal has gone back to where it was a few years ago and needs attention. looks like he can’t decide whether to run straight in his run up or take advantage of the stand rule of the mark and run around and the confusion to me is visible,  He got called to play on at least twice today caught in that indecision. His misses haven’t hurt us yet but i’m hoping someone is talking to him. 

    Spot on.

    And it’s not just Petracca. Have you noticed how many players  - not just Demons - are playing on to the right side of the mark (right footers) when shooting for goal and then missing? They’d be better just going back and using their regular goal-kicking routine. 

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    POSTGAME: Rd 07 vs North Melbourne

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    40 minutes ago, John Demonic said:
    6 hours ago, Smokey said:

    Melksham was horrible. From what I saw, the stats he accumulated came mostly after half time when we starting controlling the game better. I'd love to see him dropped. 

    It's stipulated in Melks contract that he's only to receive pats on the head, and not taps on the shoulder from Goody

    I am neither pro or anti Melksham, but I am anti prejudice and injustice.

    My first impression was that he was quite good today so I watched the game again. It’s really interesting doing that after reading what people think of players’ performances. For those with the knives out for Melksham, I suggest you take a second look and see how many times he delivered the ball beautifully in the forward line, presenting opportunities for Brown, ANB, Gawn, Kozzy. Not every one of them was gobbled up, but that said more about the receivers than Melksham. For example, Max tried to mark on his chest instead of with outstretched hands.

    Melksham was directly involved (twice) in one of Kozzy’s goals that went coast to coast.

    He missed a tackle or two, kicked out on the full and was caught with the ball. But the same could be said of Kozzy, Jones and Brayshaw.

    But as they say, haters gonna hate.

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    POSTGAME: Rd 07 vs North Melbourne

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    7 minutes ago, Jaded said:

    Disagree. Tackling and pressure acts are a non negotiable for everyone in the team according to Goodwin. 
    Being a high half forward who doesn’t kick many goals, means defensive pressure is even more important. 
    I wouldn’t drop Melksham because he isn’t winning clearances, but putting pressure on and tackling is really just a stock standard request for someone in his role. 

    Fine. I knew my post would draw a response and I am happy not to agree on everything. 

    But while we’re at it, there is a lot of bias on this forum that is not backed up by facts. People don’t like Melksham and actively look for things he does wrong or doesn’t do at all. So, some facts from today’s game:

    Spargo 10 disposals, 2 tackles and 7 pressure acts.

    Jones 14 disposals, 2 tackles, 11 pressure acts.

    Melksham 17 disposals, 3 tackles and 18 pressure acts.

     

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    POSTGAME: Rd 07 vs North Melbourne

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    23 minutes ago, Jaded said:

    I understand he is a very very good user of the footy, but he’s also selfish and lazy.

    There is a lot of talk about Melksham.  Separately there is a lot of talk about playing one’s role...

    Everyone is in the team to play their role. Melksham’s role is delivery to a player who can kick a goal or kick goals himself. Yes, it would be better if he tackled more ferociously. But that is not his primary role.

    Drop him for not finding a target or kicking goals? Sure, that makes sense. But dropping Melksham for not tackling well or often enough would be like dropping Frisch for not taking intercept marks.

     

    CHANGES: Rd 08 vs Sydney

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    1 hour ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

    Ben Brown isnt getting dropped. Its his first game back into it. Was played well by McKay and delivery was bad at times.

    Right. Only Brown’s first game so cut him some slack. Also if he had not played, Fritch would have had a better opponent and probably would not have kicked 6 goals.

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    POSTGAME: Rd 07 vs North Melbourne

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    2 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:
    2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Can someone explain why we went down in percentage on the ladder??

    The more games we play, the higher the margins have to be to keep it as high

    Ok, here goes...

    I forget what our percentage before the game was, but let’s say it was 160. That means we have kicked, on average, 60%  more than the opposition. (For every 100 kicked against us, we’ve scored 160.) 

    To maintain that percentage, we have to continue to kick 60% more than the opposition. Today we kicked 103 to 73. The percentage from today’s game is 103/73x 100. That’s 141.1% for today ‘s game. Now because that is less than the going-in percentage of 160, the overall percentage must come down. QED.

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    Demonland Podcast

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    3 hours ago, AmDamDemon said:

    the bloke who called up from Brussels

    Would be great to know who you are, monsieur Brussels. I just had the birthday milestone you mentioned. Maybe we know each other from another place and time. 

    Demonland Podcast

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    I really enjoyed the podcast (thanks gentlemen). It’s great to hear from guys with passion and knowledge, especially for me, living so far from Melbourne and having absolutely no one here who even follows the game, let alone the Demons.  So again... a big THANK YOU.

    Interesting discussion about tactical analysis. Yes, the media has a long way to go, although we’re now hearing more than in the past. We don’t have the population or budgets to support multiple stat companies so we’re stuck with Champion Data. The post clearance possession and contest differential was discussed regularly On the Couch the last couple of years. (And in those years, Melbourne was criticised for getting the clearance then giving the ball up.) Thankfully we’ve fixed that this year.

    As for making sense of the stats, I am sure every club has a full subscription to all the Champion Data statistics and enough expertise to interpret what they see. We’re just not seeing it ourselves and Birman is right... we fans would really benefit from the education. Daniel Horne is on the right track. It’s just too bad that the show is hosted by David King.

    Keep up the great podcasts. Love them!

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