Matsuo Basho

I’d be all for this. We need to get Hogan off the books and out of the club. I agree with ProDee, the player has totally lost me and we’re better off doing a deal somewhere else and cutting our losses. Hogan doesn’t want to stay at Melbourne whereas a guy like Steven May is dead keen. Get players into your club who buy in and want to be there. Hogan clearly doesn’t want to be a part of our successful premiership era. No worries ... Adios muchacho!

Trade fortnight is ALWAYS like this to varying degrees and they have never intervened before. The AFL can’t dictate to clubs who they should and shouldn’t trade for. How ridiculous.

If you consider pick 18 or so from West Coast ‘fair compensation’ for Hogan then yes you will happily get your wish next season.

Posters who think Jesse is going to suddenly embrace the club and sign a long term deal to stay at Melbourne are in for a rude shock. What’s happened here is Bell promised Hogan and his manager that Freo have a lucrative deal waiting for him end of 2019 if he can’t bend Melbourne over this year (which is the way it’s panned out). This whole circus sideshow continues on for another 12 months so that Freo can hold on to Neale/pick 5. We should have traded out Hogan two years ago when he insisted on that stupid two year extension. It was a huge red flag that he was never truly committed to the MFC and now it’s blown up in our face is Freo try to rip us off and get him on the cheap. We better learn our lesson from this and never let a player dictate the length of a contract extension to us again. Recipe for disaster.

Sorry but this is a rubbish post. Fremantle tapped Jesse up and knocked on our door, never the other way ‘round. The MFC has handled itself with class and dignity in this thing unlike our pea brained purple counterparts.

I have heard this as well. If he remains at the club (which now looks a certainty) Goodwin plans to trial him across halfback pushing up to a wing. Some might scoff at the suggestion but how many supporters predicted TMac would become a 50+ goal a year forward two years ago? This could very well be a premiership winning move. No risk, no reward!

May to Collingwood now. Nothing surer.

Today’s outcome was predicted by science, folks. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5718081/amp/Scientists-confirm-short-man-syndrome-REAL.html

It’s not getting done. Can you picture self-styled hardman Peter Bell knocking on our door again, cap in hand Oliver Twist style? Neither can I.

Best post in thread RTG. Absolutely spot on. Small man syndrome at its worst.

Who then? Can’t be Freo. Even if they’re banking on Hogan coming on the cheap next year this is still a massive balls up for a club that is wallowing down the arse end of the ladder. No guarantees what might happen in 12 months. Garry Lyon got it right - “getting cute” like that has a way of coming back to bite you on the bum. Watch the pressure get heaped on Ross as the losses and thrashings mount next season. No-one at Freo will be laughing then. Absolute idiots.

Where can I lay a monkey on Ross the Boss first coach sacked in 2019? Money for old rope.

I don’t really care what happens in this trade period now except for a burning desire for Neale to leave Fremantle so that those numnuts have an even weaker midfield to go with their D grade forward line. Threaten to sit out 2019 Lachie!

We may have just fed Barrett the 5 & 23 thing just to make Bell look even more stupid. Uppercut and a right hook on the way out the door.

Either would I. He’d trip over, spill his beer over the table and knock over everyone’s chips!

Also, they (Freo) have failed to grasp the concept that attracting good players to your football club has a snowball effect. Other good players will follow. No wonder they are bottom four material. Nat Fyfe and other senior players must be watching this used car salesman buffoonery from Peter Bell feeling absolutely filthy. That is NOT how you rise up the ladder.

Hilarious on trade radio listening to Dockers fans calling in talking up Cox, Taberner and Lobb as a legit forward line with any hope of success. Delusional! Honestly shocked at what Bell and Rosich have done here, even for a couple of amateurs. Had a 500+ goal career CHF/FF staring at them in the face and they’ve shat themselves at even paying a halfway decent price for him. Unbelievable. Gross negligence in running a footy club.

It’s over. You don’t make a public statement like that and keep a seat at the negotiation table. Freo have acted reprehensibly here. Tapped our player up, destabilised him and got his hopes up, then offered a ridiculous insulting lowball offer to his host club. FFS they have been after him for four years. Bell thinks he can get him on the cheap next year. That’s what’s happened here. Little pric.k.

Bottom four for Freo. Fyfe going to be rapt to be kicking the Sherrin to that no-name hack forward line again. What a joke of a club.

Did not expect that. Amateur hour from Peter Bell. They obviously think they’ll get him next year on the cheap.

Club supporters overrate their own players and undervalue those from other clubs. GWS will demand a first round pick for Lobb. 10 - 16 range.

Correct.

There are other permutations no doubt but it’s pretty clear what Bell is trying to do. Come back to this page next week on Wednesday and I’m confident I’ll have been right. Whether anyone will bother sifting back through 45 pages of our waffle is another matter!

Not yet but you can bet your grandma’s antique collection they will!

It’s coming down to this: 1. Accept pick 5 & 23 from Freo for Hogan 2. Hold out for 5 & 11 and walk away if not met. What will the club do? What should the club do? Going to go down to the wire folks. Real line ball call given all the circumstances. Wednesday it’s Mahoney v Bell with guns drawn outside the OK Corral.