Matsuo Basho

If I’m right you have the photo of Ricky Nixon in his y-fronts smoking a durrie as yours. Deal?

This article provides nothing. No direct quote or even a vague reference to an ‘unnamed source’. Just a hunch on the part of the journo. Yet based on this most of you are piling back on believing Jesse will be a Docker by Wednesday. I’m telling you right now. They’ve gone cold on him. Bell isn’t bluffing, they’re no longer interested. We’re stuck with Hogan for 12 months and this will all happen again next year.

Peter Jackson is a wrap for him that’s good enough for me.

I think I’ve found my footy soulmate on this forum. AF I salute you.

Credibility just took a hit with that one.

At least May appears to be keen and will commit to proper length of tenure that doesn’t hang a guillotine over the club’s head every twelve months.

It’s an untenable situation. Im with you AF. Got to cut him loose. He doesn’t want to be here.

AF ... even if Peter Bell does come across as a pompous little twerp, that is a pretty serious allegation you’re making there.

Patches info came from something he remembers hearing on trade radio a year ago. Hardly a verifiable source. I just find it incredulous that some posters get potted for merely reporting on a rumour (Langdon, Nixon, ChookinP) while others get patted on the back for virtually posting their own rumours as facts. Often it’s the same people doing the potting as the opining! It’s really very hypocritical. Alas, it’s a one eyed footy fan forum I suppose. What to do.

Of course we all know Freo has been interested. Durrhh. But you keep extrapolating an expression of interest to declare unequivocally that they have tabled X offer to him when there is exactly zero evidence to support your claim. Deal with the facts as they come to hand. I’ll walk you through them kindergarten style. A) Freo expresses interest in Hogan B) Freo began due diligence on Hogan C) Freo dropped interest in Hogan Is it any clearer for you now? Please don’t answer that.

He isn’t going home at all by the look of it!

Where has it been “widely reported that he has received long term offers of over a million dollars a season over the past few years”? Source? You keep stating assumption as fact. Just prefix everything you’re saying with “I’m totally guessing that ....” and then go for your life. Don’t go applying for a job as a forensic detective anytime soon okay Patches!

You’ve heard of the concept of trading future first round picks, yeah?

And ChookinPerth?

You keep bringing up this mythical long-term offer that Freo are supposed to have presented him, Patches. There is zero evidence of this. All that’s known is they courted Jesse, conducted due diligence on his foot and heaven knows what else, then dropped him like a cold 4nTwenty pie on the back of a sham offer they knew we’d be insulted by. You can either believe it’s a negotiation tactic on their part, or buy into the troublesome prospect that they were spooked by something that hasn’t come to light. MFC diehards are naturally not going to want to entertain rumours of the latter.

A couple of things. - As DaisyCutter pointed out Hogan was an U18 AA defender. - Virtually NO-ONE foresaw that Tom MacDonald would adapt from his switch from back to forward to become one of the best goalkickers in the league. Jesse Hogan is a professional footballer playing at a club with genuine premiership hopes. If as has been reported the coach told him at his exit interview that he may be joining the backline group in 2019 then he should’ve sucked it up and said “no worries Goody wherever the team needs me.”

Here are the Nixon tweets.

Did Freo offer him a “truckload of cash”? This has become fact on this forum but may not be true at all. We might have to consider that Freo saw something that spooked them during their due diligence process. Perhaps the nonsensical 11 & future second rounder offer was purely a face saving gesture and they now have zero interest. The more I think about Bell’s sloppily written statement the more I am inclined to think that’s what’s happened. They’re not bluffing, they’ve gone cold on him. Love to know why.

The party line. If he was happy to stay he’d have inked a three year extension months ago.

He’s at a club on the verge of sustained finals success and possible premierships but to quote Mahoney is “happy to be traded back to WA”. If that doesn’t blare “uncommitted” to you, what does?

Me too. I want a backline capable of standing up in prelim and grand finals. We can win the premiership without an uncommitted, wantaway Jesse Hogan. I’ve yet to hear, feel or see anything from this player that he’s 100% committed to the cause of the red & blue. One foot in, one foot out. Now desperate to leave. Why would you want that bad energy on your list? Brings the joint down.

If you think they’re offering rubbish now just wait 12 months.

This is completely wrong. Freo can offer Melbourne the same or most likely much worse trade terms next year with Hogan coming out of contract. We’ll be forced then to take the scraps that they offer up or maybe a late first round pick (16-18) from West Coast ... if they’re interested. Dees won’t have much of a leg to stand on next year and Freo know it.

What if you don’t actually own the Ferrari? You’ve merely got rights to it for another year. ?

A lot of people here are going to be disappointed with what we receive for Hogan if he is traded. The player wants out and the Dees are clearly keen as mustard to move him on. If we can get May in the door and a sweetener he’s gone. Hell I suspect the club would simply be happy now if it was just a straight May in, Hogan out arrangement. A gun fullback and clear air is the preferable choice to holding on to a sulky wantaway forward bound cheaply for Freo or WC next year IMO. Get it done now Josh any way you can.