kev martin

More bullying, I'm not foetal, I'm just not going to belong to your group. I am pretty new to your site and when a long time poster tells me to leave and takes my statements out of context I get the gist. I've read some of the stuff you throw at each other and am afraid you may head down that way with me. So I jump before it gets worse. Hysterical over-reaction is based on what may happen not what has happened. Be kind to people.

My last word on Demonland! You can do your training observations yourself. Your not playing, you're a spectator. You have imbalanced thoughts and live vicariously through others. To claim everyone on Demonland agrees with you is delusional. Winning is not everything! There is nothing wrong with losing nor with being last. You superior, shallow people, who value inequality. Squash the weak and worship the powerful. You poor people. I know some agree with me. Only BULLIES isolate others telling them they are by themselves. I have enough stress in life then to put myself out to you kind of critics. I like a life of freedom, not one where I have to fillter myself in-order to avoid your accusations, no matter how subtle, it is still unkind. So I'll stop before you get serious. I have seen some cruel statements on Demonland. Get over yourselves. Thankyou to those who supported my post. I appreciated your kindness. From kevin martin

Post my thoughts and Jaded quotes me out of context. I was trying to rescue some from their pain. Also some of the statements about our players were harsh and IMO uncalled for. Basically telling me to leave "her" forum.

My last word on Demonland! You can do your training observations yourself. Your not playing, you're a spectator. You have imbalanced thoughts and live vicariously through others. To claim everyone on Demonland agrees with you is delusional. Winning is not everything! There is nothing wrong with losing nor with being last. You superior, shallow people, who value inequality. Squash the weak and worship the powerful. You poor people. I know some agree with me. Only BULLIES isolate others telling them they are by themselves. I have enough stress in life then to put myself out to you kind of critics. I like a life of freedom, not one where I have to fillter myself in-order to avoid your accusations, no matter how subtl,e it is still unkind. So I'll stop before you get serious. I have seen some cruel statements on Demonland. Get over yourselves. Thankyou to those who supported my post. I appreciated your kindness. From kevin martin

I'm out of your group think group. I hope you enjoy being around those that are the same as you. Must make you feel safe and comfortable without having or allowing any diversity in your community.

Their playing to win but not everyone can.

You'll have alot of pain in your life if you believe that. "Wrong forum", what are you on about? Are you tying to shut me up. Please don't bully me. Many teams in this world have "nothing". We are one of them. Go Dees.

Melbourne as usual. I've grown up expecting and having this kind of journey. So I can enjoy this emotion. Feeling numb, a bit dizzy, frustrated and some pain. It's only football and I "got my money's worth". It was a good game though painful entertainment. Better then many past years. A loss is not going to destroy me. I can see us only getting better and hungrier. Another one that hurts the players. One day we will stand up. Gee we turn feral quickly on this site. I thought the Geelong supporters were feral. Their hate was mainly to us, but we have self loathing in abundance. Their booing during the game was just pathetic. Why boo Max? As the commentator said when Max was taken out off the ball, "the crowd arn't happy" as though the penalty should not be paid for that indiscretion because the ferals don't like it. Or, the loud speaker coming on during play so as to gee the crowd up. Don't become them. I like that Melbourne supporters are fair, applaud good play no matter which side and are generally amiable even with a heart felt loss like this one. For those expressing hate I hope you recover quickly from your pain. Winning is not everything. Again I like the ride. Maybe because I have no choice as a Dees supporter. I need to enjoy it. Congratulations to Geelong though they didn't deserve it. Robbed but they got it done and we let it slip.

Agree Wiseblood and I think we are capable, especially when our confidence is high. That 3rd quarter last week. We can take teams apart for short periods. Hope we can bring it for the entire game, control the momentum, defend when they have it and put goals on when we get it. We have some opportunities to get those scalps in the next 5-6 weeks.

Last year we were a less mature team and didn't deserve to be in finals after the North loss and the Collingwood one. This year we are stronger. Are you sure none of the coaching staff would fire a few of them up with what the media say? The ego of these young men can be manipulated in order to drive them to be better players. The fact remains, "we have not beaten one team in the current eight ", this I don't dispute. I do dispute the relevance of the statement. At the start of the season the narrative of the many is, it is an even competition. I believe this and any team can beat another on any given day. Alot comes down to the mystery of sport. It is why I watch. To suggest bottom 10 is useless buys into the myth of best. Often the psychological effect of being a winning team or losing/winning close games or smashing or being smashed, has its effect. This I believe is what determines top teams, not necessarily there skills. It is in their heads except for a few champions/elites. We also haven't played many of the "top teams". Playing these stronger teams gives us a learning curves and can drive us to be better next time.

The media has bashed us for a while now. The labels of "flat track" and not beating a top team have been used. Goody could have plenty of motivational stuff to get them going hard. I hope he has set the team up to hurt the cats and show them the way down the ladder. Time for us to stand up, I would be disappointed if we don't roll them or at least give it all from the first bounce.

At wednesdays training he was in the rehab group. Must have a 'niggle'.

Has Harry Petty been rested due to his mauling at AFL level and not doing well when he returned to VFL? Gee, his bubble has been blown. Hopefully back to best next week.

He was looking good at training. No fumbling, players falling off when they tackled, hitting targets. Want him to take the next step. I think he is working hard to get there. Tracca for a blinder against the old stars.

Next to our ground at Goschs the victory train. Before they train they turn on the sprinklers. These are the pop up/integrated watering systems (just need the tap turned on and off). My guess is because they play through the warmer months they do this to soften the turf. Their fields are also immaculately groomed. Makes me wonder why the stronger professional league, AFL doesn't get premium care by the managers of the paddock.

At wednesdays training he was in the rehab group doing light duties. He joined the main group for awhile but did not engage in contact work. The injury is probably genuine.

Great to see Dom back in. We will learn alot about his desire. Hopefully no clangers. With Viney gone we need him getting his hands on it at the contest. Jeffy also has a bit to prove, 2 to 4 goals please. Going by positional changes, Bernie will be a stopper in the midfield rotating with Harmes. Still want to see Joel Smith take some 'hangers'.

The morning brisk and a little windy, with beautiful blue skies. It was a much harder session then the other ones I've seen. Strength in the tackle and hard running. In rehab was Mitch King, Dion Johnstone, Tim Smith and Jayden Hunt with light duties being Mitch Hannan and Neville Jetta. Neville and Hannan rejoined the main group. After initial warm up, group spilt into positional groups: Fwds included Sam Wiedeman, Dean Kent, Harley Balic, Jay Kennedy-Harris, Charlie Spargo, Aaron vandenBerg. Backs included Cam Pederson, Pat Mckenna, Joel Smith. Mids included Christian Petracca, James Harmes, Dom Tyson, Oscar Baker, Bailey Fritsch. They didn't stay long in these groups and moved to simulations fairly quickly. The first simulations had no talls. Again using lateral movements to find a corridor. They were intercepting the ball and filling space in front of the receiver. There was plenty of talk about positional structures. The talls were drilling contested marking (strength and holding ground) and low ball gathering. They broke again into skill drills and back to simulations. Simulations seemed to include the squad for the weekend. Included were Bernie Vince, Joel Smith, Dom Tyson, Josh Wagner, Jay Kennedy-Harris, Neville Jetta but not Mitch Hannan. They were hard at it with medium strength tackling and contests. Plenty of talk and encouragement was heard. Nathan Jones, Christian Petracca and Angus Brayshaw had 50 and 75 meter sprints under fitness coach who worked them hard. Bernie Vince and Jordan Lewis drilled in kicking to leads after rolling away from mark. I didn't notice the Michael Hibberd incident.

He has big engine and is very determined. After his suspension for the brain fade he has come back showing less harassment. That aggression seems to be channelled into him being more of a leader. Would love to see him get back to his nasty best. Till that happens we shouldn't play him. I love it when he is a pest.

Saw a play from the centre bounce and I think in the 3rd quarter run. JHK came in from the southern wing and collected the ball cleanly and with fast hands handballed it to a MFC player who called for it. He also made a fast handball as was under the pump and hit a free player ending in a 50 entry. Beautiful hands, quick and clean, beat his opponent to the contested ball, listened to teammate and kept our run going. Can't remember who the other Dee players were. Must be other plays as well but I liked his participation in this attack.

On second thoughts, no changes. Balic carrying the flu and didn't play at Casey not fit for the big show. Joel Smith's injury sets him back, so don't want him in as he is only just performing at AFL. Give him a bit more time at Casey. At least Vince has experience, courage, can read the play and able to close a player down. Hannan still a possible out but I can't see who comes in.

Unsure about Hannan's game, involvement and decision making. Can Harley Balic get a run, a mature head who is an outside runner? Could bring Joel Smith in. Get him settled so he can play a bit more of his natural game and start taking some marks. Out: Hannan, Vince In: Balic, Smith

Is Dom Done, given he could have been the obvious in to replace Viney. Well done Harmes, closed McCrea down. Gee some of our kicking to leads in the first half was bad. Spargo saw it flying over his head a few times when on a lead in the 50. He is finding meters off his opponent. Jesse is a confidence player. Couldn’t stick it till a free kick brought him into the game. Always attracts numerous opposition players to him. Good to see our crumbers come into the game in the second half. Max found himself isolated a few times. He should always have a crumber at his feet. Hibbs and Jetts not up to their usual standards of late. Oscar has a great fist and works closely off the shoulder of his opponent. Jordans turnovers, has to be able to see opposition players not just our own. Oliver's intentional plays often look like errors. Amazing footy brain, so creative. Very well rounded footballer, hard to stop. Angus's side steps and run through traffic, great. Max so consistently good. Doing it all over the field. Sticking marks as well. I thought Jesse was going to have the great hands. Fritsch thinks it through well, always does the right thing. Can't wait to see Petracca dominate, I want him to take the next step. I wonder if Bernie, Hannan and JKH did enough. Is Jones Ok, his kicking was usually his strength, it has been off in a few games this year. Love it when Melbourne control the ball and the opponents can't get a touch. Beautiful third quarter. Good coaching, able to change style throughout the game, good adjustments.

happy birthday Doc, wishing you more to come. The same with the game, plenty more, there is always a tomorrow. Triple M 3AW SEN ABC ABC G'stand Match Centre

C'mon Dee supporters, enjoy our journey. Win or lose, we are getting a better ride than in previous years. Go to game, watch the game, none of the heeby jeeby's, jinx's or general anxiety. We are competitive, we can win when we are behind and can dominate games. I know there is an emotional gamble but is only a game. Enjoy, I don't get the hide away, not go or watch it. Individual superstitions really don't determine the outcome (stop the magic thoughts). Have some courage, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else on such a beautiful Melbourne day, at the "G", win or lose.