Males

12 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Anyone notice Seb Ross having a picnic as a spare man inside our attacking 50 during the 3rd? What was done about it? Nothing.

Perfect time to throw Trac deep forward and make Richardson react. At worse, Ross would have been moved as he wouldn’t be able to match Trac for strength, instead he was allowed to sweep the ball away constantly to the wings.

 

This drove me nuts at the game, I was 5 rows back in M54 section and could see this, yet we did nothing? Worse, we kept bombing the ball in. ?

I don't really like the idea of "trading up" for this draft. As I understand this "Super Draft", it's not that the top end are all guns like Judd and Hodge etc, it's just deeper, more talent to pick from. I also believe this draft will have a few more talls going early, then midfield depth will follow, hopefully this means we can snag a good young outside mid with the picks we have?

1 hour ago, hemingway said:

Fair comment, but at times he seems to be relaxed to the point of not exhibiting much energy or intensity. Watching him in the warmup against the dogs, unlike some of our other defenders, he appeared switched off. 

Its not really a criticism, it just is a bit unusual. It’s the way he is. But I would prefer to see a bit more aggro in a defender. 

I don't find it unusual, Oscar's normally relaxed in his on field warm up when the players come out in their pink shirts and have a few shots at goal etc. All players are different, Jack Viney has stated that he used to get himself worked up too much before a game, I have no issues how players warm up as long as they're switched on at game time. ?

At the same time, Tyson always wonders around spinning the footy like a basketball and taking a few shots, Petracca normally takes lazy right foot snaps from about 50 on the fence. Jones, Brayshaw, Hogan and TMac normally take a few more serious shots at goal in this warmup. ???

They smashed Frankston who are poo. If I'm reading it right, VFL do a 6,5,4,3,2,1 vote system for each team? Billings only got the 1 vote for Sandy, with 53 touches and 3 goals. ?

Remember that JKH constantly racks up massive possessions against better VFL teams than Frankston for Casey, yet struggles at AFL level. ?

They have the breeze this quarter, 6 goal run hurts though.

43 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

My observations.

Very good win. I never thought we were not going to win, even after the start, we were fumbling and missing targets but still moved the ball pretty well until we hit into f50, then we were pretty poor. But again, it was more a concentration thing.

Once we fixed it up, we were always in control.

Oliver didn’t touch it for 16 minutes and still starred.

Brayshaw had it 39 times, 32 uncontested. His kicking was poor half the time today but he is still a baby in terms of games and match fitness. The last few interviews he has done I have see/heard a healthy dose of arrogance in his own ability.

Jetta was best on ground by the length of the Flemington straight. No ifs nor buts.

Hogan was immense, Gawn while early I thought got beaten a few times smashed Biyd around the ground, his marking was first class.

Clearances were a problem all day but one that didn’t hurt us. Would like to know the hits to advantage by both sides.

The Lever loss is going to hurt especially if it’s long term.

 

Really? Everytime I've listened to him I've never got the impression that he was arrogant in his abilities? 

I'd be surprised if he doesn't get another run this year, due to injury or resting players. Will play in the firsts next year after Lewis and Vince retire after winning the flag too. ??

Gus was just on Triple M, pretty standard interview, JB and Gus taking the [censored] out of Gus' old man etc. He's already penciled in the game against Freo and he's looking forward to standing next to Andrew at one stage and seeing who wants the ball more? ?

Very well spoken young man. Unfortunately they didn't ask him about contract etc. ?

I noticed the glove in the warm up, thought it was strange for him to wear it but it didn't even occur to me that he had injured it, let alone surgery on it. ? ??

28 minutes ago, willmoy said:

The AFL are so compromised. These two imbeciles didn't just touch the Umpires (sacrosanct, dominus vobiscum), they pushed the Umpires. Phil Carmen would be saying , join the club you blokes.

Just on a side issue Cripps indicated in "On The Couch" by his answer to a direct question, on last year's game, from Lyon, i think , about whether or not Hogan broke his jaw,  said that there was slight break in his jaw last year. The question still remains, when.........

I just got the impression that Cripps was being diplomatic with his answer.? ?

Amusing how some are criticising Brayshaw's kicking on one hand, but then stating that Trac is elite/better etc? When you compare their career stats they're basically the same, for everything, and I'd argue that Brayshaw has had the more interupted run of games to get his touch.

If you actually want to go off this years Disposal Efficency,

Brayshaw 68.5% (avg 3 clangers per game)

Petracca 63.6% (avg 4.8 clangers)

Oliver 72.2% (avg 4.4 clangers)

Personally I think Brayshaw is more rounded, can use both sides of his body. Petracca is more x-factor, I don't recall him ever kicking opposite foot? I love the upside of both players and would love both to end up one club players with 250+ games. ??

Does anyone know which round our other replacement game is? The magnet fixture you receive with your membership used to have an asterisk next to them, not this years one. 

43 minutes ago, Watts the matter said:

Saty, I know you think you know it all. 

But this was reported by a Melbourne supporter who does the offical podcast weekly. It was also said with Paul Roos ,who would have knowledge of each persons role within the football department, sitting next to him.

If he says he was in the box the last 4 weeks, I know who I am believing.

To be fair, Roos answered the question put to him and stated that it would be unusual for a "line" coach to be on the bench, but that he didn't know what role Macca was playing.

Maybe McCartney had a shot at our fwd and midfield coaches for letting the ball rebound too easy and make his backline work, and look, bad? ?

I wouldn't be worried if it was as plain and simple as having his experience on the bench for better communication?

Petracca on Dusty for the whole game? He has the size, power and 1v1 marking ability to defend against Dusty when he goes forward too.

I must admit that I've changed my mind about going after attending last weeks poo we dished up. I'm working anyway but was going to try and swap out of my shift and go. Now I'm just going to save myself the hassle of trying to swap and record it on tv.

8 hours ago, Call Me What You Will said:

From memory I think it’s about $220 per adult for the 11 Home Games (its about $1000+ for two adults and a variety of 3 kids/concession. (I am a good dad! Ha!)

The 11 Home Games general admission membership is $221. If you're sitting in M51, that's the Demon Seats Plus Open Air package, that's $429 for a single adult.

Stuck working while the game was on but watched the replay when I got home. I'm actually not that disappointed in the game, I thought our second quarter laps against Geelong was worse.

Lions kicked 7 goals to 0 in their run, but in between the 7 goals we missed set shots from Hogan, out on the full, and Oliver. Jetta also missed a pretty simple snap. There may have been another set shot and snap too, Bugg and Hunt?, can't remember now. Petracca also missed a set shot before the start of their run. We convert any of those shots and we would've taken the wind out of their sails.

Throw in a goal to the Lions after a lucky spoil from a Lions player landed in the lap of another Lions player 20 odd meters away too. ?

Still need to improve, but I'll take the 4pts.

I'm happy with the changes, although I'm a massive Brayshaw fan, I'm also of the belief that they probably want to give him a proper run and that's why he isn't an emergency.

We handball more then I'd like, mainly because we either handball to someone under more pressure, or loop a sloppy handball, causing that player to have to then handball under pressure too. I didn't think it was as bad this game as last year though.

28 minutes ago, Bobby McKenzie said:

Maybe someone watching the second quarter could time how long it went from siren to siren? Please do so to prove my point  or otherwise. Thanks someone.

I was at the game, game clock showed around 33mins for the 1st quarter and 34mins for the 2nd quarter. I just fast forwarded through the first half on my Foxtel recording, confirmed those times. ??

I'm obviously in the minority here, I don't have any real issue with what Lewis did. I thought it was a soft free too.

Just like Maxy's missed goal, the loss shouldn't be blamed on this one incident. They out scored us by another 25pts in the second quarter, also kicking 1.7 in the last hurt.

Yes, he's one of our leaders, but he did the same occasionally at the Hawks too, so we knew what we were getting. Considering the leadership he gives us for the most part, I'm happy to take the minor indiscretions. ?

Vince may miss a few games because of his hand? I know he played the rest of the game, but if it's a split webbing between his thumb and forefinger, he might be out for 3-4 weeks.

3 minutes ago, Chris said:

I get your point on Garlett but out of the three you lost Garlett is first picked every single week. He is in a different class to Hannan and Fritzch. 

This is my quandary, when he's on, he's on. Fritsch and Hannan are better in the air though, and that seems to be the way we are going to deliver the ball. ?

We let the ball come out of our F50 to easily as well, I think Bugg's tackling pressure and mongrel would have been useful today.

It's only R1 though. ?

15 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

Wasn’t Garletts sort of game, he was never setup with a one on one opportunity in an Otherwise vacant forward line after an interception and kick forward against the flow of play. That is his strength.

One thing that stood out to me in the 2nd and 3rd was our inability to do any intercepts and turn the ball quickly back into our forward line.

For most of the game our backline couldn’t punch, our tall forwards couldn’t take a mark, our small forwards couldn’t get front and centre and neither could they put any forward pressure on. If Gawny had kicked straight and we won it would have been a steal on my observations today at the ground. 

And then we need to ask the question of the coaching staff and leadership group. 

In the second quarter I reckon Geelong kicked out from our behinds at least 4 times to the Members flank and each time cats players took uncontested marks, turned inboard and delivered to a free player at CHB and then had running options on either side. A set play time and time again that we did not counter. OKay perhaps except we had selected a number of small defensive forwards, Hannan, Melch, ANB etc who did not play all that defensive. 

Anyone else notice how our key forwards and key backs kept running under the marking contest leaving the Geelong player to take a clean mark and play on? 

 

I am am worried about our game plan against top sides. As has been said it relies on contested ball control to work. Loose the contested ball and we get smashed. 

I agree it didn't suit him, but that is part of my issue, where is his game B? I'm probably in the minority on this, but I believe Bugg's fwd defensive pressure and nagging would be better. Or give Spargo a crack, he tackles hard and has a bit of mongrel I believe? ?