Rodney (Balls) Grinter

If that's their only pitch to build it up, it seems pretty unfair on all parties really. Gee wiz. We've got a good rivalry with Sydney, but I don't see it as a huge one. Don't know why the AFL are obsessed with needing to pitch these epic rematches in Rd 1. Everyone is craving for any AFL action at all. I'd actually rather play someone other than the Bulldogs in Rd 1 for a change, but asides from that, I don't really care who or where, so long as it isn't Geelong at Cat park - surely we can have a season we don't travel there away?

Jack Billings? https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/department-of-trade/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2023-jack-billings-collingwood-st-kilda-contract-western-bulldogs-little-interest-in-player/news-story/cceb745d9702de954b4dfa0e8496cad2

Getting rather sick of Adelaide, Port (mainly via Corns) and Freo white anting at our stars from their states. What is the list of all the best Victorian players from those clubs that can be prominently bandied about in the main stream media to destabilise those clubs? Uncontracted or contracted, doesn't matter - can someone please make this happen?

Considering North got pick 3 for Ben McKay. The other reference point which Adelaide should be familiar with is Jake Lever. Also had an injury history, but worth two first round picks. I'd contest that Petty is different, but every bit as good as Lever. Lever was also uncontracted, Petty is not. Tell them they're dreaming.

The young folk call it a 'mullet' Goffy. Kind of like a skinny Luke Jackson look alike.

Yeah and has 69 battery power - don't know if that's saying something. Sorry I'm such a juvenile.

Or does Port actually want a ruck more? Or for that kind of unders, maybe we'd just prefer to have a quality VFL ruck and insurance for Max.

I think the game high 8 marks, with many of those contested that also really stamped him on the game.

Pretty much. I'd put it at that 2015 Vs Geelong at Kadinia Park win, where he dominated that he really started to stamp himself on the comp, which probably didn't really consistently get going until the following years 2016 / 2017 so that puts him precisely 23 - 25 Agree that it's probably a good age range to recruit a ready made ruck that still has some years ahead of them. Probably also allows our 19/20yo developing rucks some time to develop their bodies and as players without being thrown in out of their depth.

I turned the TV off the moment the siren went for that very reason

Add to that other list Christian Patracca, who would have gone pick 1 if St Kilda didn't hace a masive recruiting brain fade. Matt Rowell also looks like being a pretty decient footballer.

I think the other lesson that should be learned out of this by the MFC is that delisting and relisting players as rookies etc may not be such a smart move if we think they might be decient players in the future.

Yes right now JJ was only depth, but in a few years he may not have been. I'm beginning to think that we need to do more to keep players in his age demographic to sustain the team in the years we will be comming to soon when the Viney, Tracs and Brayshaw, Langdon, Hunter etc cohort start to fall away. Similarly players like Bedford. And great teams need good depth. I partially understand Jordan's reason to move, but when he's going to a club where the midfield will be similarly strong to ours, that becomes a little less understandable. I'd actually be inclined to boo him and Bedford in the future.

Will fit in well with "Milkshake" when he gets back

Surely if he knocks up the ton, his daughter would qualify for our AFLW team?

Really glad for Joel that he got the oppertunity and produced this season. Was a really bright spark up forward to look to for the future. Thought he had some great games down back pinch hitting as the sub - that Brisbane game in particular. Provided really strong contest, marking, defensive tackling, but then some good run off half back as well. A bit hit and miss as a forward, but more often than not, provided a really good aerial contest that others failed to give. His marking on a lead and goal kicking look pretty rock so solid too. Love seeing him in the 29. Would be great to see him pull down some massive hangers like his old man - I reckon he's got it in him.

I agree in part Neil. Maynard was something of an unwitting, careless pawn in the affair. I do believe there was sincerity in his visit to Guss in the following days. But I simply can't forget or move on from the way their supporters started the "Collingwood" chant as Guss still lay their motionless on the ground or the way Eddie McGuire carried on "justice has been served" style when he got off at the tribunal. Tasteless, brain dead (pardon the pun) and uncaring response from all of those aforementioned. This thread needs to stay alive throughout the whole of next season at the minimum.

And we also hate Collingwood and the AFL and Eddy Mc Guire - probably more than even before if that was possible. For the next umpteen times we play them, we should really be expecting our side to serve their own version of justice on those a-holes. Makes duck dinners look like kiddies talk.

Is that like a variation on the Sydney "No Richard craniums" policy?

Isn't that an even better reason to shed the Nick name? Is he now going to be a Mini Goodie?

I don't think he was a free agent was he? And if I recall correctly may even have still been in contract. This attitude we have at the MFC of helping players get to the club and trading low value 2nd / 3rd rd picks or worse for them has its drawbacks and sometimes I think we need to hold on harder to some of these types of players. With Bedford we'd put multiple years of development into him and he was just starting to show the fruits of that investment and we let him go, what I would call cheaply.

Maybe, but every so often one of those second strings turns into a solid best 22 performer at another club. Still spewing we let go of Toby Bedford though. He had potential best 22 written all over him, but I think we just needed him to be more patient with oppertities to get confident and prove it at the MFC.

New players and coaches always look infinitely better with a red and blue kit on!

Can we drop the Mini nickname and come up with something else? Seems demeaning.

Our football department and the players involved are all quality individuals, so I'm fully confident that those types of conversations would be being had if that's where things are at. But who knows maybe the players, fitness and medical staff have some kind of belief that there is something still worth persevering with and want to squeeze every last drop out of their careers. I'll be fascinated to see what might be left in their careers. Melksham looked a bit past it 12 - 18 months ago, was struggling for a senior spot and look at the contribution he was still able to make. Each individual is different. Hibbo called it a day when he thought his body and playing capasity was on the cliff edge or just a little over. To be honest, I was amazed he was so good last season and even the games he did play this year. Maybe others don't have the aversion to potentially playing mostly reserves and just want to hang onto being involved in that elite environment for as long as they can. Whatever the case, I agree with @dimmy that these guys have earnt the right to call it a day on whatever their own terms might be.