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Hawks racism allegations (merged thread)
It's pretty quick to be going with this but he's right. It's why I, and many others, were so against the simplistic "we sucked at drafting" argument that pervaded on here in 2007-14. How were Cale Morton, Jack Watts, Jack Trengove, Jack Grimes, even Jimmy Toumpas, supposed to reach their best in the mess that was 2007-14 Melbourne? It's precisely why someone like Sheezel or Larkey or LDU would look around and think "what would my career/life be like if I was playing for [insert probably any other club except Hawthorn or West Coast]".
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PREGAME: Rd 10 vs Yartapuulti
So we're replacing Sparrow's midfield minutes with Rivers/Brayshaw (either split between them or just one of them moves into the middle), and then Salem replacing the Rivers/Brayshaw minutes. Given Sparrow's been a mainstay of the side for a while now, once his suspension is over and assuming no other injuries, there is a lot of pressure on for selection now. As for TMac getting Petty's spot - I'm very "meh" on this. I personally think Brown's Round 1-2 form was strong enough to have him back but the FD clearly want him to work on something (you'd imagine it's something to do with his defence/pressure) and don't seem to be interested in picking him until that's sorted out. TMac gets a chance, I hope he takes it. Getting something like 2021 TMac would be such a win. 2022/23 TMac though...
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PREGAME: Rd 10 vs Yartapuulti
I think "selection integrity" is a bit OTT. Gawn didn't play VFL after a month out, and no one complained (there was a query about him being fit enough to play at any level by Round 6, not "he should play VFL" queries though). Hibberd and May missed the first few games this year and came straight back into the AFL. So we know that some players don't come back through the VFL. Salem's best is elite. We know he's been back at fitness for a few weeks, so he's at least been training at full tilt. I think we can be OK with bringing him back into the AFL rather than the VFL.
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Hawks racism allegations (merged thread)
Disastrous for North. As for Clarkson, what he's going through is incredibly tough, either way (i.e. whether the accusations against him are fully true, partly true or fully false). AFL coaching is hard at the best of times. Craig McRae is probably the only current AFL coach who hasn't had the heat of the media, fans and/or industry turned on him at some point, and for some coaches it's been far worse than others (e.g. Goodwin, Fagan, Hinkley, Hardwick, Dew, Longmuir, before them Cameron, Buckley, Ratten, the list goes on).
- PREGAME: Rd 10 vs Yartapuulti
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The 2023 AFL Fixture
Channel 7 want better games in the Sunday 3.20pm slot, which is I think why Sat arvo is no longer premium.
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PREGAME: Rd 10 vs Yartapuulti
No Georgiades either - I feel like he plays well against us every time we play them. They have Finlayson and a 21-year old called Ollie Lord (197cm). But they are currently using both of them to chop out their inexperienced ruck, Teakle (last week Teakle took 26 centre bounces, Finlayson 5 and Lord 2). I don't know if they can play Lycett and Teakle in the same side but Essendon had success with two rucks against us (albeit we didn't have Gawn) so I wonder whether they will bring Lycett back, which will allow Finlayson to be a permanent forward. Assumes of course that Dixon isn't fit; if he's fit, he comes back and they will have Dixon, Lord and Finlayson up forward (with Finlayson in the ruck half the game). I think with Gawn floating back if needed, May/Lever/Hibberd is enough to cover their forward line, but if they do bring Dixon back we might be a bit short. Personally though, I'd rather back our system and defence in and pick the best forward than pick TMac just for his flexibility if he otherwise wouldn't be first choice.
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The Dees are Doing it Again
I agree, our backline in particular has seen rotation weekly. This week might be the first time we arenโt making a change to personnel down there. The forward line rotation is more of our own experimentation though.
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The Dees are Doing it Again
Whilst this isnโt an unreasonable analysis, itโs worth remembering IMO that: 1. We had no Hibberd or May against Brisbane and lost Gawn 15 minutes in 2. We had no Hibberd, Lever or Gawn against Essendon on a six day break after a warm game in Perth. Not excuses, just some thoughts. IMO our inability to intercept in both games crippled our scoring ability. This week v Port we should have all of Gawn, May, Hibberd and Lever.
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When will Melbourne break these embarrassing records?
Yes, twice. Our first ever game against them was a Friday night. We lost at Football Park by 51. More recently we had a Friday night in 2018, in Adelaide. We lost by 10 despite leading at three quarter time.
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The Dees are Doing it Again
I donโt see the need to compare us to Collingwood right now but weโve played an easier slate of opponents than them, but have done it with tougher travel and more short breaks. Theyโre yet to play any of North, West Coast and Hawthorn. Weโve played all three.
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The 2023 AFL Fixture
They canโt and likely wonโt get Thursday nights every week. Itโs only possible with multiple 5-day breaks per side, which I believe AFLPA will resist. Perhaps avoiding rounds with three games at one venue will avoid this situation.
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The 2023 AFL Fixture
I heard that, but Sam Edmund also said that in Round 19 Port v Coll would be Friday night. That canโt be right as that round has three Marvel games (and no Thursday night that week). So his mail canโt be 100% right I donโt think.
- PREGAME: Rd 10 vs Yartapuulti
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Sparrow cops one week ban for rough conduct
His head hits the ground so we will lose but I donโt think that sort of tackle should be banned. Itโs one action, not two, no arms pinned, and doesnโt involved a demonstrative dump or drive head first.
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Petty Set to Miss 4-6 Weeks
Well that sucks. No idea whether we turn to Brown, TMac, Schache, Smith or Melksham.
- Death Riding Fremantle 2023 - Feathered Cap Edition
- PREGAME: Rd 10 vs Yartapuulti
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Sparrow cops one week ban for rough conduct
Yeah, we know, you don't like Sparrow. Just on stats, in 2023 compared to 2022 he's averaging more kicks and disposals, double the goals, more tackles, a higher DE%, fewer clangers, more score involvements and more metres gained.
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Sparrow cops one week ban for rough conduct
This is the Guidelines on dangerous tackle offences: This appears like it can only be the last one - slung into the ground with excessive force. The AFL is hot on these this year. This one doesnโt leap out at me like others do. I assume heโd fail at the Tribunal but I really, really struggle to accept that this deserves a week whilst Meek was charged with kneeing for the second time and gets a fine, or Caldwell gets a fine for an intentional gut punch to Daicos on ANZAC Day. But here we are.
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Sparrow cops one week ban for rough conduct
Canโt see him pin an arm, Day gets them both up. Presumably done for the slinging motion but thatโs not what the dangerous tackle suspensions have focused on so far this year IIRC, theyโve all been dump/drives or pinned arms.
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Sparrow cops one week ban for rough conduct
Vision too poor to see if he pins an arm. If he does, weโre probably toast. But if not then this seems over the top.
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Why are we continuously being beaten in clearances?
On centre bounces, yesterday there were 24 of them (Grundy 14 and Gawn 10, ruck-wise). For our mids, Oliver was at 18 of them but Trac and Viney only 14. The rest were Sparrow 10, Pickett 7, Brayshaw 6 and Jordon 3. For a random comparison, in Round 10 last year (the last of our 10-game winning streak), there were 26 centre bounces - Trac did 22, Oliver 21, Dunstan (playing for Viney) 19. Only two other mids went in there - Sparrow 15 and ANB 1.
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Why are we continuously being beaten in clearances?
Agreed. We have used the first 9 weeks of this year to integrate new players all over the ground, including at stoppage (more Grundy, Rivers, Pickett and ANB and less of the same Gawn, Trac, Oliver, Viney combo). That means it's OK in my book to be down in clearances given we're continuing to score.
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PREGAME: Rd 10 vs Yartapuulti
Adelaide's currently leading St Kilda 31-7 so let's assume Adelaide wins and passes Carlton into 8th. The top 8's record to Round 9 vs the top 8: Collingwood - 4-1 Port Adelaide - 3-2 Adelaide - 2-2 Brisbane - 2-2 Geelong - 1-1 Melbourne - 1-1 St Kilda - 1-3 Bulldogs - 1-3 So only Collingwood and Port have winning records against the top 8. Like Geelong, we've only had 2 opportunities and have split them 1-1. But interstate travel-wise, we've had 4 road trips to date, compared to St Kilda's 2, Geelong's 2, Collingwood's 2, the Dogs' 3, Adelaide's 3 and Port's 4. That's right, only Brisbane in the top 8 has had more games out of their home state than us. And we have a 5th next week, whilst Brisbane are at home, meaning that through 10 rounds we'll have done the equal-most travel of all top 8 sides, inclusive of three interstate sides. None of this means we're certainties to romp it home after next week but it's important context.