titan_uranus

On paper we should win this game by 10 goals. The Hawthorn side running out tonight is awful and we have a hell of a lot to play for. But we're 2-2 against the bottom 4 and neither of the two wins was convincing: we were down to North Melbourne by 4 goals and we were only 4 points in front of Hawthorn at the start of the fourth quarter the last time we played them. MFC supporters IMO have every right to be worried about this game, given our 2021 form in these sorts of games.

We have a game in hand. Win tonight and we stay two games clear of Port with five to go. Port's win is not that bad for us. They're the worst side in the top six. We shouldn't be worried by them at all. If they push Brisbane out of the top 4, that's a good result for us.

Why is this a bad thing? It's a Geelong home game and the only reason this game is supposed to be at the MCG is to allow more fans to attend. That's now irrelevant given the restrictions. It 100% should be in Geelong. Get as upset as you want about them passing us on the ladder, but this is fair.

I guess a lot of Demonlanders are going to be happy seeing vandenBerg in the team. Disappointing IMO for Sparrow that he's missed out on a midfield spot, but let's see how vandenBerg goes.

It poured last night and Geelong beat Fremantle by 10 goals. But as others have said, my main concern is the win.

Correct. We've never won 17 games in a season before. As I mentioned in the embarrassing records thread, Hawthorn won 17+ games in a season five times in six years (2011-2016).

I'm not suggesting it's impossible or unworkable to adjust the fixture, all I'm suggesting is that it's both sub-optimal and not as easy as just scrapping future return games. There are fairness and integrity issues at stake. Other examples include the games earlier in the year where sides had home games flipped to away games on the basis that there would be a return game later in the season (e.g. Brisbane v Collingwood, St Kilda v Sydney, Brisbane v Fremantle). Sure, this is all better than abandoning season 2021, but until scrapping games becomes the only option, I advocate against it and I'm sure the AFL will do what it can to avoid it.

Need some junk time Fremantle goals here. Gap right now has been shortened to 1.2%. Geelong roughly need to outscore Fremantle by 14 points to pass us on percentage tonight.

A night game gives us FTA exposure which will be more enticing and rewarding for our sponsors. Surely a better result than the twilight game on Fox.

You'd have to think it's close to 0% of a chance we play this game in Darwin. Presumably will end up at Metricon.

We need Fremantle to give.a yelp here. Geelong are only 11 points away from passing us on percentage.

Let's hope the decision to lockdown early works and we're back up and running again in a week or two. But it's hard/impossible to be confident about what will happen with the rest of the season. Oh yeah that makes sense. While we're at it, given we have truckies here, when we need a delivery of food or other essential supplies from NSW I suppose we should stop the truck and spend an hour moving all the food over into our truck? Honestly, think about how ridiculous what you're suggesting here is. There are other issues with this though. Some teams (rumours suggest we might be one) planned for a 22-game season by way of our training loads. Degrees of unfairness start to arise if you suddenly chop the season down to, say, 19 games. Otherwise it then gets a bit complicated. The Dogs, for example, after this week will have three games left to complete (Adelaide, Essendon, Hawthorn). Adelaide, by contrast, will have just one (Bulldogs). Some sides are going to have too many games whilst others will have too many byes. The AFL's come this far, I expect it will do everything it can to finish the 22 rounds as intended.

Removalists are generally considered essential workers as people need to move house for a whole host of completely valid reasons, including to escape domestic violence or because they'll otherwise be turfed out by a landlord. There is only so much governments can do. In this instance the individuals who were allowed in failed to follow the rules.

Bit harsh on Trengove, surely.

Good riddance. I hate Thursday night games.

If need be I'm sure the AFL could have re-structured Round 19 to get the Dogs v Adelaide game into the Saturday (e.g. swapping it with Sydney v Fremantle, as Sydney would no longer need a six-day break into the following Friday if Melbourne v Dogs was the subsequent Friday night game).

My recollection was that our record days of usage were days in trade weeks in the 2008-2013 era, when we had nothing else going for us. But maybe that was just my own excitement.

As predicted, the Darwin fiasco has led to us losing the Friday night against the Dogs in Round 20, with a Saturday night game given instead. So Essendon v Sydney gets the Friday night slot. Should at least be on Channel 7. Round 19 Friday, July 23 Port Adelaide v Collingwood at Adelaide Oval, 6.45pm ACST Saturday, July 24 Hawthorn v Brisbane at the MCG, 1.45pm AEST Sydney v Fremantle at GMHBA Stadium, 1.45pm AEST Essendon v GWS Giants at Marvel Stadium, 4.35pm AEST Gold Coast v Melbourne at TIO Stadium, 6.55pm ACST West Coast v St Kilda at Optus Stadium, 5.40pm AWST Sunday, July 25 Western Bulldogs v Adelaide at Mars Stadium, 12.40pm AEST Geelong v Richmond at the MCG, 1.45pm AEST Carlton v North Melbourne at Marvel Stadium, 4.40pm AEST Round 20 Friday, July 30 Essendon v Sydney at Marvel Stadium, 7.50pm AEST Saturday, July 31 North Melbourne v Geelong at Blundstone Arena, 1.45pm AEST Brisbane v Gold Coast at the Gabba, 3.20pm AEST St Kilda v Carlton at Marvel Stadium, 4.35pm AEST Melbourne v Western Bulldogs at the MCG, 7.25pm AEST Adelaide v Hawthorn at Adelaide Oval, 7.10pm ACST Sunday, August 1 GWS Giants v Port Adelaide at TBC, 1.10pm AEST Collingwood v West Coast at the MCG, 2.10pm AEST Fremantle v Richmond at Optus Stadium, 3.10pm AWST

Max Laughton on FoxFooty does a good weekly analysis: https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2021-the-run-home-after-round-17-analysis-predicted-ladder-top-eight-afl-fixture-finals-ladder-predictor/news-story/b0e8b05d42b89694ea8d57bad33be1b2 It's all obviously speculation and this week just gone shows how futile that can be, but that analysis also shows you that 11-11 is a genuine chance of being enough for finals this year.

North's 22 last night was on average ever so slightly older and more experienced than ours was on Thursday night. 25 years and 2 months, and 99.3 games, compared to 25 years and 1 month, and 98.0 games. Mind you, West Coast's was 27 years 5 months and 138.1 games. Super old. Indeed, it looks to me as though we were in the top 5 for youngest sides - Essendon, Adelaide, Gold Coast and Fremantle were the only sides younger than ours this weekend.

90% chance of showers, 2-5mm total, with "possible small hail". Not ideal. However, I think there was a similar forecast early in the week prior to the GWS game, which didn't eventuate.

This round shows a few things. First, "good sides don't lose to bad sides" is rubbish. Second, West Coast and Richmond are, hopefully, fingers crossed, pretty please, cooked. Third, upsets are going to happen. Fourth, our best is as good as anyone's. Fifth, everyone down to Gold Coast in 14th can still make the finals.

West Coast are pathetic. They can only produce AFL-level football when they're at home and it's not wet. Anything other than perfect conditions and they fall apart. They're slow, unfit, lazy, old, disinterested and [censored]. And don't you just love to see it.

You said we'd lose to Essendon. Wrong. You said we'd beat GWS. Wrong. You said we'd lose to Port. Wrong. Now you're saying we're 50/50% for 4th. That can only be correct at this point if you think we are going to go 2-4 from here. If that s indeed what you think, maybe stop and reflect on the first three sentences above and take some solace in your unerring ability to be wrong.

16 players per side cannot and should not ever happen. It should not happen because the AFL did not spend all that money expanding into GC and GWS only to shrink the number of list spots available. The purpose of expansion is to grow AFL in those markets. We want there to be more opportunities to play AFL, not fewer. It won't happen because the AFLPA won't let it happen. But none of it needs to be even discussed.