Wiseblood

Yeah, because that's totally going to happen. Hibberd for a second rounder, either this year or next, is the most likely outcome.

They might be cactus in the short term. But three top 10 picks, as well as adding McCarthy, Hill and possibly Lobb, while Bennell might also come back into the side, and the future doesn't look all that bad. I think they need to go in to full rebuild mode now. What if Fyfe leaves at the end of next year? They won't get the same deal as the one GC are offering now. If they feel that Fyfe is even a small chance of leaving, then they would be silly not to seriously look at that deal.

I think Freo are a real chance of accepting the deal, but Fyfe is still under contract and has to agree to it - he might come back to Freo and say he wants out, but only to a Vic club. He doesn't have to go to GC if he doesn't want to. He might see Prestia leaving, Ablett being in his twilight years and possibly Swallow and O'Meara leaving as well, and not see much of a future up there.

Wow. That's a huge offer. I can't see Freo doing it, as I'm sure they'll want to back themselves in to get better next year and have him sign on, but if they are slightly worried about his leg and he isn't the best teammate (as has been reported and commented on in some areas), then they might bite on that deal. That would, potentially, give them 3 picks inside the Top 10, plus they are already keen on McCarthy, Hill and possibly Rory Lobb as well. This off season is going to be very, very interesting.

Of course it's an opinion. It's all our opinion, as we don't know it as fact yet. You think Michie, Newton, Trengove and Lumumba deserve further contracts? And have you told Terlich personally that he should be delisted? You're always happy to tell others that we should say things to the players' faces, so I hope you've pulled him aside to tell him that over the last few weeks. I'm sure he would appreciate it.

Who gets delisted, Saty? I know you want to hold on to them all, but we will need to use at least 3 picks at the draft, which means we move on 3 players at a minimum. Who, in your esteemed opinion, should be delisted or moved on?

Paul Roos.

I'll clarify - what I meant is that, when I say I can see what Brisbane is trying to do, it's that they know they need to throw serious cash around to get players in to the club. And as you say, they are directing that cash at the wrong players. Jenkins, to me, makes little sense as well, especially at his age. If he was 25 then yes, I could understand it. But not at his age. He may only be good for another year or two, and how does he go when the delivery and gameplan are inferior? They need to keep investing in kids and looking for the right deals. Jenkins isn't one of them.

I can understand what Brisbane is trying to do, although if I were them I'd put that cash elsewhere. Schache and Hipwood have shown enough to suggest they could be very good key position forwards for the next 10-12 years, but they lack some serious class in other areas of the ground, especially down back. I'm surprised they aren't throwing big cash at Tom McDonald who would be a mega upgrade on any player they have in their backline. But to each their own. They'll need to pay top dollar to convince players to jump ship. I mean, why would Jenkins leave a premiership contender to play out his days at a cellar dwellar? The only reason is money. There was a reason Mitch Clark came to us and it wasn't our 'winning ways' that convinced him.

Jon Ralph has brought this up in an article tonight, asking the question of whether Jenkins is worth 800k or is he nothing more than a flat track bully. He commented that he rarely, if ever, leads up to the ball and his first instinct is to hang out the back looking for the easy goal. I don't believe he is worth the 800k at all and it certainly gives more credence to your point Jumbo. I'd link the article but it's behind the paywall.

A 5 year contract for Dawes is now on the table...

He's not playing poorly, though. He's had a few rough patches but he was much better on the weekend.

Of course not Rusty, but that is beside the point. As the FD have mentioned on numerous occasions, for us to win games every player needs to fulfill their role in the side. It's clear then that Dunn did not complete the role he was given, and not completed it to the point that he has been banished to the VFL. It's not hard to work that out.

I'm always intrigued about why some supporters want an explanation from the FD as to why a player isn't in the side. You guys can't work it out for yourselves? He was given a chance and fluffed it, and clearly didn't play the role he was brought in to do, hence why he is overlooked for other players in the short term. Why do you need the club to tell you this, and why is it our business anyway? No doubt Dunny will have been told what they weren't happy with and what they want to see from him before he is selected in the side again. If you can't work that out on your own then I don't know what else to tell you.

This is it in a nutshell. His form this year has been pretty putrid, and with Roos talking about everyone playing their role each week, it's clear he didn't get the message and wasn't doing it. His non selection is a pretty clear indication of this. As jumbo said his one on one stuff a few years ago was sensational, but with so much running being done this year it seems that he doesn't have the capacity for it. I still think it's a storm in a teacup - Dunny might be a good kick and have some experience, but it's not going to change anything.

It makes little difference if he plays or not.

Our boys noticed very early too and Jones, in particular, gave him lip for the rest of the day. I counted 6 head high free kicks from him dropping the knees and throwing his head back. No idea why umps get sucked in either. It's staging in it's purest form.

I know what an illusion is. You don't know what a delusion is. The saying is 'delusions of grandeur.' Go and look it up if you need to. Whose the clown now?

It's delusions. If you're going to troll you could at least look like you know what you're talking about.

You've mentioned this twice now. Reading skills not a strength? This thread is now just for talking about Jesse and his exploits ON the field. The other is for all matters OFF the field. I thought Grape made this pretty clear.

Perth?

You could make the argument that he is the perfect foil for Gawn - a bloke who can play forward and then be a legitimate pinch hitter in the ruck. It's a moot point though because I think we need to strengthen other areas and there will be other clubs willing to pay over the odds to get him. I don't get the Weideman argument though - we like to talk him up, but he's a kid who is unproven at AFL level. Yes, he's coming along nicely at Casey which is great, but he's still an unknown quantity at AFL level.

They're crazy then. You would think he has more than 3 good years left in the tank playing alongside Tex, Eddie and Lynch.

4 years isn't THAT bad for a 27 year old. There will be plenty of clubs, Freo included, who will throw truckloads of cash at him though.

Of course this was it. The club organised it and knew all about it. That logic doesn't stop some from losing the plot though.