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Love Tmac playing forward, he's a good mark and in the forward line he's only got one thing to aim at. Didnt know much about Hibberd before he came across but I do now, he and Salem are two of the best attacking defenders in the game. Gotta love Bern, doing what he does best. Isn't it good that Jones doesn't have to be a one man midfield anymore. North next week, one more problem to cross off the list

He was a ball magnet in the under age competition but it appears that not many were prepared to risk him because he was so small.

Maybe they got a list of members phone numbers from the club?

They sponsor the Women's team and are upgrading to be co sponsor with AHG for the men's team as well.

Yep. Co Principal Sponsor with AHG.

Back of jumper sponsor to be announced and it's iSelect, well done Dees.

I tend to agree with you, Hogan is probably not in a great place and if he is sick then that just compounds the problem. We can win this game without Hogan and if Weed plays, then he has put in his best performance, no excuses, he's an AFL player and has to play accordingly.

Except we are losing games that we should win, we are keeping our opposition to low disposal counts but they are still kicking enough goals to beat us. We generally win the inside 50 count, but lose games to opposition who take better advantage of their I50, maybe that's because our forwards are poor, or maybe it's because our defence is poor. There are countless variables but the only irrefutable fact is we are losing when we should win and that's because the opposition score more than we do.

I don't know that but here is a sample. Hawthorn I50 = 48 scored 24 times Richmond I50 = 57 scored 28 times Geelong I50 = 46 scored 20 goals it's the ease in which other teams seem to score goals against us.

If the defenders give away goals every second or third time the opposition goes inside 50, I reckon that's leaking like a sieve, don't you? Our midfield and forwards keep the ball out of the backline as much as possible, but it must be disheartening to see a goal kicked so often when it does go in there.

That doesn't tell the whole story, it's more to do with opposition inside 50's and our own inside 50's, I'm not sure where you'd get the details of this but I'd hazard a guess that we have a lot more inside 50's than our opponents, in most games, yet they score more often than we do. Here are some statistics that show how we are able to restrict our opponents capacity to get their hands on the ball but they seem to be able to score so much easier than we do. Statistical Rankings High Rankings Low Rankings Ranked 3rd in Kicks Per Game Ranked 5th in Handballs Per Game Ranked 2nd in Disposals Per Game Ranked 4th in least Opponent Kicks Per Game Ranked 1st in least Opponent Handballs Per Game Ranked 1st in least Opponent Disposals Per Game Ranked 1st in Team to Opponent Kicks Per Game Diff. Ranked 1st in Team to Opponent Handballs Per Game Diff. Ranked 1st in Team to Opponent Disposals Per Game Diff. Ranked 5th in Team to Opponent Marks Per Game Diff. Ranked 18th in Hitouts Per Game Ranked 16th in least Opponent Hitouts Per Game Ranked 18th in Team to Opponent Hitouts Per Game Diff.

Our backline leaks like a sieve and we need to recruit a top line defender/backline general to stop the flow of goals against us that the current crop seem incapable of doing. It is too common to see out of form players kick big scores against us like Hawkins. JackR, Roughy, McCarthy and even O'Brien, who had kicked 3 goals in 6 games kicks 2 against us. Daniher had 9 shots at goal in the first half and the game would have been over at half time if he'd kicked straight. There is a fundamental flaw in our game plan that allows the opposition to score so easily and it is easy, yet we bomb the ball in to our forward line and they seem to have a player drop back and mark, so often, unopposed We also have to look at those players that are permanently scarred and just turn it up when we play against certain sides that have had the wood on us for years.

They need someone to replace Vickery and Paddy may just be the dud to do the job.

Everyone seems to think that Darcy Moore will be a star, so I've got a comparison between he and Weed when they were the same age, there's not a lot in it at this stage. Player Statistics Comparison Sam Weideman Name Darcy Moore Melbourne Demons Team Collingwood Magpies Forward Position Forward 7 Career Games 32 Eastern Ranges Origin Oakleigh Chargers June 26, 1997 Date of Birth January 25, 1996 Turned 19 in 2016 Age Turned 19 in 2015 195cm Height 201cm 94kg Weight 98kg 2015 National Draft Last Drafted In 2014 National Draft Round 1, Pick #9 Last Draft Position Round 1, Pick #9 Melbourne Demons Last Drafted By Collingwood Magpies 2016 Stats for Season 2015 3 Games 9 2.7 Kicks Per Game 5.4 5.7 Handballs Per Game 3.6 8.3 Disposals Per Game 9.0 3.0 Marks Per Game 3.2 1.0 Goals Per Game 1.0 0 Behinds Per Game 0.3 0 Tackles Per Game 1.8 0 Hitouts Per Game 2.6 0 Inside 50s Per Game 1.4 0 Goal Assists Per Game 0.2 0.3 Frees For Per Game 1.1 0.3 Frees Against Per Game 0.7 4.0 Contested Possessions Per Game 5.0 4.3 Uncontested Possessions Per Game 4.2 6.7 Effective Disposals Per Game 6.3 80.7% Disposal Efficiency % Per Game 70% 0.7 Clangers Per Game 1.4 0.7 Contested Marks Per Game 1.0 1.0 Marks Inside 50 Per Game 1.2 0 Clearances Per Game 0.6 0 Rebound 50s Per Game 0.1 0.3 One Percenters Per Game 1.8 0 Bounces Per Game 0.1 78.7 Time On Ground % Per Game 80.2 33.7 AFL Fantasy Score Per Game 48.2 40.3 Supercoach Score Per Game 53.9

What, you don't think he's had enough criticism over his career? It's become some sort of sport in itself, let's find some fault in Jack, no matter how well he plays or what he acheives on the ground. See if you can pick out an incident or two where he hasn't put in to your standards and then run with it, that's better than saying good game Jack, 4 goals a number of possessions and several goal assists. Jack is not naturally a bash and crash player, he's a natural footballer but hasn't had the hard edge that some CHF's have had because he doesn't have the body shape of a Carey or Brown. He's playing ruck and that's got him more involved in the game, so he doesn't drift in and out like he once may have and he's certainly playing a harder brand of football than he used to, but that just doesn't seem enough for some.

He did.

We will beat Hawthorn next week whether we get Hogan back or not, our forward line with Hannan in it is mobile and unpredictable, we have several avenues to goal at last. Our backline is starting to gel and our midfield is better than theirs, but best of all, they are completely lacking in confidence and Alistair is now facing the reality of coaching a side without superstars. Today was a poor game but we won and that's all I care about, 4 points is the same for a good win or a bad win. I don't care if Daniher kicked poorly today because he usually does, we played them with a few of our better players out and on their dung heap. Goodwin has got the players believing that they can win any game with the team that gets picked and having missing players is irrelevant, there are no excuses and that can only be good long term for the MFC.

inAbsolutely stoked for him, he's a soldier alright, does what he can when asked to and doesn't complain when he doesn't get a game. Hope he plays a few more and not just when Max is out, he gives every game his best and it allows Jack to kick 4 goals instead of battling away in the ruck.

Does it really matter how many of ours were there and how many of theirs were there, really? We know they have a bigger support base than us, that's a given and if they turn up in those numbers next year, I'm sure the club will be over the moon. If they want to put their money up and support their team next year, PJ will be more than happy to bank the cheque It wasn't the crowd that beat us the other night it was injury and our inability to put them away early in the game, we dominated inside 50's in the first quarter but couldn't put scoreboard pressure on them. So the make up of the crowd only concerns those that are worried we are going to disappear from the scene if we don't double our support base in the next few years

So you base his excellence on a couple of good games, one against us where he kicked straight for the first and probably only time that year and yesterday. He will dominate some games when he has it all his way and the opposition is weak, like us last year and the pies yesterday. You"ve always liked your multi dimensional mobile talls but can't see the one directly in front of you, Hogan can play as a mid, back, forward, what does that say about his multi dimentionality.

Maybe it was when he said that Hogan had no skill when the ball hit the ground, that he was a lead up and mark player only, or words to that effect.

Just for the record here's the Lynch/ Hogan comparison, not a great deal in it and Lynch has a few seasons and 60 games on Jesse. Player Statistics Comparison Jesse Hogan Name Tom Lynch Melbourne Demons Team Gold Coast Suns Forward Position Forward 44 Career Games 107 Claremont Origin Dandenong Stingrays February 12, 1995 Date of Birth October 31, 1992 22yr 2mth Age 24yr 5mth 195cm Height 199cm 100kg Weight 98kg 2012 Mini Draft Last Drafted In 2010 National Draft Round 1, Pick #2 Last Draft Position Round 1, Pick #11 Melbourne Demons Last Drafted By Gold Coast Suns Career Stats for Season Career 44 Games 107 9.6 Kicks Per Game 9.0 4.6 Handballs Per Game 5.4 14.2 Disposals Per Game 14.4 6.9 Marks Per Game 6.0 2.1 Goals Per Game 1.9 1.3 Behinds Per Game 1.2 1.3 Tackles Per Game 1.7 0.1 Hitouts Per Game 0.8 2.3 Inside 50s Per Game 2.4 0.5 Goal Assists Per Game 0.8 0.9 Frees For Per Game 1.1 0.4 Frees Against Per Game 1.2 5.9 Contested Possessions Per Game 7.4 8.2 Uncontested Possessions Per Game 7.1 9.5 Effective Disposals Per Game 9.6 66.9% Disposal Efficiency % Per Game 66.7% 1.5 Clangers Per Game 2.5 2.1 Contested Marks Per Game 2.2 2.8 Marks Inside 50 Per Game 2.4 0.2 Clearances Per Game 0.3 0.2 Rebound 50s Per Game 0.5 1.1 One Percenters Per Game 2.4 0.1 Bounces Per Game 0.1 90.1 Time On Ground % Per Game

Daniher was selected by a club where his family were royalty, Hogan was drafted as an underage player by a club on the other side of the country at a time where is father was extremely ill. Hogan is a year younger has played 31 less games than Daniher and is still ahead of him on all statistics. Daniher is kicking 2.4 goals a game this year, hardly a star, Jeffy is kicking that many. I'll buy as many Hogan shares you want to sell. These are the career averages. Jesse Hogan Name Joe Daniher Melbourne Demons Team Essendon Bombers Forward Position Forward 44 Career Games 75 Claremont Origin Calder Cannons February 12, 1995 Date of Birth March 4, 1994 22yr 2mth Age 23yr 1mth 195cm Height 200cm 100kg Weight 95kg 2012 Mini Draft Last Drafted In 2012 National Draft Round 1, Pick #2 Last Draft Position Round 1, Pick #10 Melbourne Demons Last Drafted By Essendon Bombers Career Stats for Season Career 44 Games 75 9.6 Kicks Per Game 7.9 4.6 Handballs Per Game 4.0 14.2 Disposals Per Game 11.9 6.9 Marks Per Game 5.7 2.1 Goals Per Game 1.6 1.3 Behinds Per Game 1.3 1.3 Tackles Per Game 1.2 0.1 Hitouts Per Game 2.1 2.3 Inside 50s Per Game 2.2 0.5 Goal Assists Per Game 0.4 0.9 Frees For Per Game 1.1 0.4 Frees Against Per Game 1.3 5.9 Contested Possessions Per Game 5.2 8.2 Uncontested Possessions Per Game 6.9 9.5 Effective Disposals Per Game 7.8 66.9% Disposal Efficiency % Per Game 65.5% 1.5 Clangers Per Game 2.7 2.1 Contested Marks Per Game 1.7 2.8 Marks Inside 50 Per Game 2.2 0.2 Clearances Per Game 0.7 0.2 Rebound 50s Per Game 0.3 1.1 One Percenters Per Game 1.7 0.1 Bounces Per Game 0.2 90.1 Time On Ground % Per Game 85.1

Actually that was done in the hospital when they had their brain removed. Unlike some on here I'd like the Tigers to win their next few matches, it would show that our form is good and that we are competitive against the best around. Also I'd like to see both the Tigers and the Demons become powerhouse teams with a fierce and longstanding rivalry, that would take care of the problems around whether we keep the game and whether the crowd would come. If the Pies were in the frame for a flag tis year and we were playing good football you'd see a huge crowd at the G on the QB, it's not the charity aspect of the game that stops them going, it's been a case of either one team or the other being ordinary.

On 3AW today, one of the footy panel said something along the lines of, this kid Oliver is going to be a star and he's only 22. They really do their homework, don't they.