SFebes

I hate both of them but 100% agree with you

Why do we still bomb long into the forward 50 after the last 2 years?

He'll be fine next year and beyond, but at the moment he does one good tackle a game, misses plenty, gets pushed off the ball too easily and can barely kick over 35m. He's young, a good decision maker and will be fine in time.

Yep agree.

Just like STK, Sydney applied the heat and pressure as they knew we would crumble. We have a soft underbelly and every club in the competition knows it.

I think we need a freshen up and change in leadership. Jones has never been a good onfield leader and has ALWAYS gone missing in big games. Gawn (C) Lever (VC)

6. Harmes 5. Salem 4. Brayshaw 3. Tyson 2. Oliver 1. Gawn

$3.30 for the Swans and $7 to miss the 8 lol

Absolute freak isn't he, some of those one handed pickups just make your jaw drop and wonder how he does some things.

Soft underbelly Front runners Bathwater No leaders Poor kicking into 50 Worst defence Laziness Swans 2 players down most of the game Aliir..... Skill errors Goodwins tactical nous Jones MIA again when heat is on in Melk, Out Spargo. Yips, 36% accuracy Lazy running Umpires? +17 i50's, Swans only had 43! There are times when a zone works and it doesn't work when teams chip it around and weave through the puzzle like Swans and Hawks. Goodwin should know this by now, go man on man. I always thought the Swans were a threat all along, still some fight in the old boxer yet. Jones, well, once again missing, his kicking is putrid and he looks so lazy and disinterested. While we had a shocker in front of goal, I'm glad Buddy did too. I think we'll beat WCE but we are a weak club who haven't beaten anyone of importance all year, that's the facts, not the spin. Swans wanted to play finals a lot more. All the best to Alex Johnson, heartbreaking story.

Well what do you know, Nathan Jones missing again when the heat is applied, wheres his admirers now? An ordinary player his whole career. Who said Sydney were easy beats? I knew they'd come out firing after last week, too many good players. Goodwin again clueless in the box.

Nev gone downstairs

Me to

I wanted WCE to lose. If we win all 3 remaining games and WCE lose the next 2, we will finish 2nd. Not out of the realms of possibility, however Bris need to defeat WCE in R23 which I think they can up there. In a dramatic twist to the end of this season with key injuries to clubs, GWS, WCE, PORT, COLL.... I honestly believe there's only 3 major threats for the flag. Richmond obviously, Hawthorn creeping up and wait for it.......The Dees. We won't get better opportunities than right now. I'm confident of beating WCE with their outs and GWS at home, but my concern is the ever testing Sydney, win today and its game on for 2nd spot. If WCE win v Bris then an away final v WCE may eventuate.

Who are the 2? Long term?

I think I wanted Cats to win (actually wanted both to lose). Hawks into 3rd now

And that's another issue, how can Brown pull out of a fair bump at that speed? How does he know whether Saad will kick, handball or keep running. Massive grey areas in the rule and this 5m interpretation has crept in out of nowhere this year, after last year all the talk of protecting the head. Last year if you chose to bump and it was high it was an automatic suspension, this year Christian has allowed the bump, no wonder the players are confused. He'll get suspended no doubt, the media will make sure of that.

Shannon Grant and his ex would be the clubhouse leader perhaps, well Grant himself really.

I'm more surprised Schwab is still alive and kicking in footy circles.

After Burton got off for his bump on Higgins I'm stuffed if I know what they'll do. He didn't raise his elbow so could go either way. If you pause when Saad handballs, Brown was within 5m. Fair bump, play on. Whateley and his agenda calling a "cheap shot." Gerard and his overreactions this year.....

So if I'm hearing it right, which still may be wrong: WCE have offered 6 x $850,000 NORTH 7 x $1,000,000 MELB........ ? I don't think we can compete with those numbers, I'd rather Whitfield ot Josh Kelly and put that money towards them.

Police?

All good and well to get rid of players, but upgrading them is the issue. We need to move forwards, not consolidate and go backwards.

Thats why I don't really rate his 3 x BnF's, he was better than a bunch of C graders at the time. Nice guy and appreciate his loyalty though. Some of his kicking has been horrendous in recent weeks, I'll leave it there. An amazing effort to have so many in the top 200, a sign of a real "team"

Think it was Luff on radio last week who said Nathan Jones was the biggest slider in AFL player rankings, I’m not surprised.