Boots and all

I wouldn't mind both Hannan and Fritsch playing across half forward.

Not ready / needs a rest, either way he won't be up to playing the eagles.

I think I agree, again without stats to back it up. It also partly explains why Jeffy goes missing against the better sides.

Real risk of missing finals now. Not that it matters, we can't defeat 'real' top 8 sides. We would be just making up the numbers. I wish we could kick straight, reminds me of the port game.

The swans will just shut the game down now. This will be boring to watch, no clean possession to be had.

Exactly, they are picking their way through the zone like playing checkers and we seem helpless to stop it.

He has been really poor today, he just doesn't look up to it. Whether it's injury, age or depression from years of underachievement who knows. He needs a rest.

Is Nev playing? Injured? I thought I saw him go down the race. Are we down to three rotations?

Haven't seen him all day...the invisible man returns.

Agree completely. As far as I can recall, at no stage last year were all three of Hogan, T Mac and Pedo uninjured, in form and fit at the same time. They are all mobile, versatile footballers who can be moved up the ground more if the forward line isn't functioning. Rather than ability, I think about getting the leading patterns right and allocating zones of responsibility for each individual that I think will be critical. I'm sure there will be issues, but that's up to the coaching group to get right.

Total star! Exactly what we need, I'm not saying we should cough up the kitchen sink but would be happy to offload one or more inside mids to get him.

I wonder if the boys all got together to watch that game? I'm sure they will be hurting as much as we are and hopefully thinking about some of the [censored] efforts they dished up over the year.

True, I'm just having a massive sook up here in Townsville.

Commentary is pro-eagles too.

Starting to not care, if we don't make finals, we have ended the season with a loss to the pies. If we do, we get smoked in an elimination final - just delaying the inevitable really.

Exactly. Hate them but you're dead on.

Hell no, and the filth didn't have any good reason to beat us yesterday either. Adelaide won't sit back and allow WCE to win. Call it white line fever, their competive nature will kick in and they will want to end the season on a high.

No coincidence that we are copping soft tissue injuries left, right and centre over this time either.

No coincidence that we are copping soft tissue injuries left, right and centre over this time either.

I agree, bring in a ruck to play the bulk of the ruck to maximise JW time in the forward line, where he should be.

But he is sooo slow, having said that he uses his assets well.

4 quarters?

I wish he would just play to the whistle. During a marking contest in the third, he was taken a little high by Rance and started sooking up to the umpire. Play on and JKH forced the ball forward in to Jesse's path as he wandered toward goal and kicked it....the laziest goal in the history of football....Play the [censored] whistle Jesse, geez!! Loads of talent that will go to waste if he doesn't get his head in the game...Rant over, apologies everyone.

Agree with Pedo, Spencer is not Gawn. We need a backup ruck that is not J Watts, he is utterly wasted in the ruck.

Tooo many durries?