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I believe the question was regarding whether she had spoken to Christian about his reported intention to go elsewhere.

You need to take a closer look mate! Quite a few clubs have had some success by picking up mature (26 is hardly mature aged) Don’t be so critical when you obviously don’t watch VFL games other than Casey!

Brodie McLaughlin (Williamstown) continues to shine as a goalkicker. After being equal highest goalkicker for Gold Coast reserves in 2023, with 60. I see he has kicked 10 in two finals games for Williamstown in 2024. He is 26 and would be handy at Casey, might cover for the likes of J Smith in the firsts on occasions. Affordable depth in my opinion.

Thanks for coming clean DDD! Let me get this right... A former president was the catalyst for us to become wilderness wanderers. Then a CEO in modern times steered us out of the wilderness to the Holy Grail... and now, just three years later, you want to slash and burn in order to stay out of the wilderness!

It has been inferred that CP5 is ‘disgruntled’ over the way the Clayton Oliver issue has been handled by the club. Considering that Clayton was on the brink during the second half of 2023, the fact that he played 21 games in 2024, and led the club for average disposals, is a minor miracle! I applaud the coach, his assistants, player leaders and officials for the transformation they bought about in Clayton’s health and wellbeing, and ultimately, in his output in 2024. He is now well positioned to start 2025 at the height of his powers. It’s up to him! I think too much has been made of Petracca’s concerns on this issue. Are they not great mates! Wouldn’t Christian be pleased to see a slow but steady redemption for Clayton. I would have thought that Christian would play a role in getting Clayton back on track (no pun intended) rather than using him as a catalyst for enquiring about possible trade options!

No, just the wrong boat!

I respect your analysis on this... but there are holes. Paragraph 1) Our skipper agrees with some of Petracca's concerns, but there is no evidence that he thinks standards have dropped in the player group. Paragraph 2) A reasonable appraisal of on field problems. paragraph 3) Pert was here three years leading up to our premiership, hardly coming in on the back of the previous regime. Every premiership Cup is built on the back of decisions made before it was attained. Was Hocking's input at Geelong, winning the 2022 Premiership, diminished because he followed Cook? Are you saying that Pert and Roffey contributed naught to our success in 2021? I didn't think so!

Let’s say, for instance, that we are raising a case about poor culture at GFC (a club that is considered to have a ‘good culture’). What could we use as ammo? 1) Geelong star Tyson Stengle taken to hospital after nightclub incident 2) Reigning Premiers, Geelong, miss top 8 3) ‘Embarrassing, terrible, absurd’: AFL criticised for letting Cameron play on after head knock 4) Geelong coach Chris Scott has received a $10,000 suspended fine as a result of his interaction with Brisbane Lions players at quarter-time of Friday night's game at GMHBA Etc etc...

I thought he was stressing how far from the truth the claims of poor culture were.

I listened. I wasn't embarrassed. I understood why he was defending the Club.

Time will tell! Is there any individual or group that doesn't have skeletons in the closet? Changes in leadership are an ongoing reality for football clubs. I object to disrespectful, even poisonous barbs directed at those who have devoted their time and energy (often without monetary gain) to assist with the day to day demands of running an AFL club.

I mean those on here who are in some way aligned with a push to oust the current Board/CEO/Pres

Excellent appraisal... valued contribution!

Here’s one for those who are hoping to gain politically from jumping on the bandwagon of ‘Club in Crisis’. 1964 to 2021… you count the years, false dawns, messiahs and heartaches! We won a magnificent Premiership three years ago and yet, it has only taken three years for the borers to demand we obliterate anyone associated with bringing that Cup to us! I say the follow up was snuffed out on the field of play! I say the players own the so called failure. They know that. Let them fix it. That’s what good footballers do and we are blessed with good footballers, I believe in the young men who wear the red and blue. I keep our most successful coach in 60 years. I keep those around him who he wants and needs. I respect our current Board, CEO and Pres… I don’t accept ‘poor standards’ or ‘bad culture’ arguments, particularly from those with a political agenda or those in the media who live and die for clicks!

Thank you for that gobbledegook! I simply asked that contributors consider who on the playing list they feel has lowered their standards. I deliberately left out Clayton and Christian. Obviously everyone here has difficulty naming players who have dropped their standards. Unfortunately, that is the aspersion that has been cast widely in this debate. I don’t agree, and I think you will find that the players I have named, don’t agree (what an obnoxious opinion it must seem to them!)

I knew posting details of Pert’s exemplary record would smoke out a few borers!

Pert went on SEN to defend a Club that was being attacked from all sides. I don’t think you were ever onside with Pert & Goody, so you didn’t lose a thing!

There are quite a few people here who either need to declare their allegiances or cough up their information. The anti-Pert faction sounds like insider dealings. That’s a political push as far as I can see. I don’t mind ‘moving on’, as it has been put, but I smell political motivation behind what’s being presented as an appraisal of conduct. Please correct me if I am wrong, but don’t simply wave a banner!

Love your work, binman. You provide balance when balance is called for!

Yes, thank you... You just proved to the listeners that some balance is required!

I'm attempting to bring some balance to the character assassination that has seeped into this thread!

So, we are not allowed to discuss players on the list that may or may not have dropped their standards. I call BS!

Are you Caroline's partner?

So, we get a lot of sweeping statements about dropping standards, poor culture yada yada. We seem to have more difficulty naming names. As one who attends training as often as possible, I haven't noticed a drop in standards at training.

Are we talking "standards" or 'form'?