Mach5

Good Lord!

Therein lies the rub. If they have to match, better to get something decent for Bonar, then throw that in with 6 to us for pick 3.

I’d wager London to a brick that we’ve told GWS we intend to nominate Green if we keep pick 3 and will happily keep him, however we’re also open to the possibility of a trade if they can get us back a pick in the top 10 plus another first rounder/early 2nd, maybe more. 12 & 18 for 6 is a guide. 3 for... 6 & something in the early 20s? How much do you value sliding back 3 slots at the pointy end? Then factor in the high value for GWS because of what they can do with it.

Old news?

No. No, no, no. NO.

If only you knew.

He might be. But Freo did the same to us last year with Hogan.

If we rate him as a mid-to-late 2nd rounder, no point trading pick 22 to Freo when pick 29 might come into our hands through trade. No rush on this from our end, although Freo will be pushing.

He has quietly tried to get across a couple of times & it just hasn’t worked out. Don’t assume just because there isn’t a carefully stage managed public campaign that there isn’t a desire. But I think now he has accepted it just won’t happen, and embraced the fact he is wanted at Hawthorn.

He would have loved it too, but the stars just didn’t align.

Reckon you might be right in the end.

If I had to keep pick 3, it’d be Serong. He’ll probably end up like Ainsworth at the suns. But I’m firm on splitting the pick. It’s great that Young is a fantastic kick, but it’s a pre-requisite that the selection can find/win their own ball. From what little I know, he skirts round the back for a lot of cheap handball receives. Intercept marking is a nice bonus, but if he’s to be a small defender, he has to be capable of winning a hard ground ball, one-on-ones and playing tight. No clear indication of those abilities yet. And if we split it, we could have the good chance of a combination of Stephens, Weightman and/or Robertson, which would be a serious win.

Matthew Panos, Serhat Temel and Majak Daw were the holy trinity of can’t-miss-top-20-picks. Them and the Scully/Butcher combo that would lead us to the promised land.

Oh my. What exactly do you think McCartney did? So so clueless.

All vacant positions have been filled, although obviously not announced.

Matthew Panos.

Not exactly.

Not true to my knowledge.

It'd be a mistake to keep him. I think we need to hold our list to a higher standard. You talk about accepting mediocrity; he is emblematic of that. (not you you, just general you).

Probably closer to Toby Greene.

That ball drop in the 2nd video is terrifying.

Do you really think that? Bugger me.

I think it's gone quiet because there's not much to say. He'll get there if he wants to be there. Good luck to the kid.

Would take that in a heartbeat.

I'd expect that to come into it. I'm sure with the Hogan deal, we'd have discussed Langdon being part of it. Freo would have tried to claim he's worth a 1st round pick, we might have said 3rd, so leave him out of it. Now he's uncontracted, so his "worth" changes again.