dazzledavey36

Thanks DS!

Interesting with JKH he seems to be the Draftee that's standing out the most with his training. Been hearing nothing but real positives and good reports. Could be a steal!

This deserves it's own thread because I have something positive to say about Mark Neeld and so many other threads are being sidetracked with people blackening his name (often with good reason).

I know from talking to players that he was wrong for many of them and wrong for our club. Maybe he listened too closely to Mad Mick, but in any event he came in with all guns blazing and shot himself and the club and us in the foot.

But...three things he did should stand us in good stead: he won us Mitch Clark and he backed up with Chris Dawes. If fitness and good health follow these two will be lasting positives for us.

Third: he sacrificed a big part of his first draft to warehouse Jesse Hogan. That was the act of a man putting the good of the club before his immediate benefit. We should acknowledge that and pay due credit.

Now I'll just reach for my umbrella to shield myself from the s#*@ storm to follow...

I can see what your saying but as you pointed out, Clark and Dawes so far have been injury prone and hardly have played. We gave up pick 12 for Clark and pick 20 for Dawes.

On Hogan its too early to say. Hasn't played an AFL game yet even though he has showed real talent at VFL level the step up from that league to AFL level is HUGE. We did give up pick 3 for him which would have nabbed us Ollie Wines. Wines, Viney and Toumpas would have been a pretty handy onball unit as well.

Unfortunately the negatives far outweighs the positives with Neeld. The problem was Mclardy, Schwab and Lyon told Neeld to give the boys a good kick up the ass when he was appointed, which wasn't Neelds caliber. He tried to be someone he wasn't and that gets shown out big time to players. Why would players listern to a bloke trying to be a hardass when he was a [censored] as a player.

have also heard that you guys have picked up daniel welsh from eastern ranges. heard it from daniel himself. good choice!

You seem to keep pumping up a bloke that didnt even get a snippet of a mention during the draft period. Are you sure your not him?

Anyways back on topic..

Good to hear Roosy has been impressed about our boys so far this summer. Players seem to respect and that can take you a long way just ask the Port boys with Ken Hinkley. The boys there absolutely love him go out there to bust a nut for that bloke.

I just love beer

Simply not hard enough at it. Won't make the grade hoped of

Between Morton and a B grader

Haha well done on winning the 'worst post ever' Title..

While we are at it you can have tool of the year aswell.. FMD

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Speaking honestly, as a multi-generational white Australian, I'd love to solve the inequity that continues to exist in our society with the Australian indigenous people.

I'd love to see how we can close the gaps in health and lifestyle especially, where the average age of indigneous males is close to my current age.

You're a good young bloke and no doubt a local role model DD. Liam's story doesn't help. That's my point.

Yeah i understand where your coming from now.

Speaking honestly, what's the fastest you have ever driven a car?

Sanctimonious if anywhere close to 140 clicks. Bullshitting if not.

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113 in a 110k zone.

Whats your point.

Dazzle. Can you confirm the occupants of the car included his children? Otherwise, why are they relevant and what is your point?

Are you seriously for real??? Its not about who was in the car its the fact he has two young kids alone! Where is his responsibility there!? Do you think its a good idea for a 26 year father risking his life doing 140 in a 100k zone? Not only is he is putting himself at risk but people around him! His kids arent going to have a dad soon the way he is carrying on and thats a dam shame for any kid to grow up with without a dad. Because your basically saying its ok what he did but its irelevant in whos in the car.. Poor form LF

dazzledavey36....are you serious? Dawes premiership player vs Fitzpatrick the unco awkward forward/ruck...picture being the opposition defender for a second Dawes or Fitzpatrick....experienced forward vs 30 game(approx) forward...have a think about it. Shame on you.

Did you know Mitch Morton was a Premiership player? Or what about Shannon Byrnes? I bet he is your pick for Forward pocket ahead of Kent and JHK.. Funny how you say Fitzy is awkward unco yet i watched him towel up Heath Grundy (premiership backman that is... you know the ones you love?) against the swans and kick 4 goals against the Lions. I must have saw different to you because i saw huge potenial with this guy. If i was a defender id rather side up against the lumbering Dawes with a wonky knee to be quite honest.

Id probably swap Fitzy for Dawes and have Hogan push up to a CHF and have fitzy next to Clark. Two 200cm tall forwards in the goal square to kick isn't a bad idea for me.

If they're both 100% fit, that's ridiculous. What attributes does Fitzpatrick bring that Dawes doesn't have.

I just dont rate Dawes that highly to be honest. Only my personal opinion but i dont think we will ever see a fully fit Dawes on the park especially with his ongoing knee problem he has to battle for the rest of his career. He will play games at 70 to 80 % fit but never 100 %. As already been mentioned Fitzy is more quicker, taller, good turn of speed, and a better overhead mark aswell. You can never question his leadership and courage but i think Fitzy has massive upside and i can see it be untapped under Roos.

Just a fact jurrah has two kids so obviously the [censored] isnt worried about his family if he is doing 140k in a 100 speed zone. Also to be in a car police chase he could seriously kill someone! The cops were in the right in stopping because of the risk it would have on the public. RISK! ffs i dont give a [censored] about his family problems anymore and either does he. No more [censored] weak excuses with this criminal. Lock him up and throw the key away.

When some clueless people wanted him drafted this year i got howled down because i said how much of an alcholic and complete danger he is to society. Obviously 6 months jail wasn't enough to pull his head in. Give him 10 years behind bars seriously. He will kill someone one day.

Fitzpatrick, because everyone talks about the big 3 and ignores him.

Gawn, because a good ruck with his size would be great.

Fitzpatrick, for the same as before

I agree i would have Fitzy penciled in for round 1 instead of Dawes.

Jesse Hogan is not Jack Watts - and I am not trying to belittle Jack in any way; with improved conditioning and positive coaching I beleive he will become a very good player if not a star - with a very different physique and temperament, and gives all appearances of being ready and very willing for the physical contest to begin.

He has also, unlike Jack, had an enforced full season playing ( and destroying) against men in VFL.

As DA says - if that puts him off he is not who we think he is or will be.

I know he will be a good player and im looking forward to seeing him play. But that heading for a 0 gamer is quite poor. We also have to remember that VFL is quite a big step up so i dont expect him to dominate straight. I just want him to earn his spot, get use to the speed and big bodies and see how we go.

Its no wonder blokes like Watts struggled with the pressure because its the [censored] media that put ridiculous headlines like this before they even play a game. Don't mind the article but please that is by far the worse heading for a 0 AFL player ever.

I know I might be going over the top but it only takes something little like a heading like that to put extra pressure and stress on a player that hasn't played a game..

Not happy.

Saw about half the team at a pub in Richmond Friday night, it was only early around 7PM, having a dinner and a beer together. I assume therefore they have weekends off at this stage of the year?

Yes they do. But most of them are still training whether its going to the gym or extra running.

Didn't realise how bad I worded that.. yikes.

Ps anyone having trouble with the quote button..??

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Machsy the kid is only 19 years old of course there is plenty of improvement left in him. He will only get better and the whole AFL know that. He doesn't need to get bigger but he still get a hell of a lot stronger. In fact saw a recent pic of him in Dubai and he is looking seriously fit and slimmed right down so he you would expect to have added some pace aswell.

Were you also saying Joel Selwood and Dustin Martin couldn't improve after their first years?

Way off the mark there with that comment.

I don't see Wines actually having that much upside in him.

He's never going to get faster, unlikely to get more skilled.

Thumper will be the master of spread and uncontested football.

Just gotta hope he continues to get harder and win his own footy.

I'm confident he'll be a valuable contributor for the next decade.

I disagree I reckon he will be a star. His game against Collingwood in that final was very impressive for an 18 year old. kicked 2 crucial goals and looked like a 150 game player that night.

His attack on the ball is Joel Selwood like and I love watching him go about his business. I reckon he will have the same impact as what Scott Thompson has had to his career.

Will be an absolute gun.

But in saying that I am also a fan of Toump and think he too will be a gun player. I reckon we will see a completely different player next year and more burst and explosiveness from him that he showed in the SANFL.

Future leader in the making and has enormous upside and improvement. At the start of this year he was pretty timid but as the year got on I notice he was going in harder for the ball and making some crunching tackles so he will defiantly improve that aspect of his game. Was only a confidence thing.

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Let's see how he goes on game day.

Hence why I said he should strap himself to Cross and soak up information and good habits because for him to be a good player he needs to learn from guys like Cross who is one of the ultimate professionals.

The reports have been nothing but positive for young Toump! If he plays well this year I can see a cult like following of the mighty Toump!

Been reading that he is one of the louder players at training and is definitely leading by example and setting the right standard. I hope he has been strapping himself to Daniel Cross and sucking off as much information as possible!

Saty I cant quote you for some reason but you said one player mentioned it was good to be treated like adults? that's a very interesting comment? can you shed any more light into what that really ment?