joeboy

Brown - turned back clock

Carroll - looked at sea

Bizzell - gave away height

Ward - a commendable effort

Bell - unfortunate early injury

Green - had no influence

Johnstone - had minimal influence

Bate - thrown around field

Bruce - prolific ball winner

McDonald - pure committed effort

Davey - the better Davey

Robertson - great third quarter

Neitz - played on courage

Johnson - continuing to impress

Wheatley - had little influence

Jones - couldn't break tackles

White - controlled centre circle

McLean - consecutive disappointing games

Sylvia - brilliant in bursts

Godfrey - impressive and determined

Petterd - showed impressive glimpses

Newton - an impressive debut

mate..I agree.. thats the whole thing.. CAC can get some good players.. but if Danners and Co doesnt want to bring them on...because "they' have some ideas about it all.. Then hows that CAC's fault.

My point is that he's targetting the wrong players .

whoa !!

wake up bud!! CAC scouts, finds and helps recruit them... after that its up to the coaches.

he can force danners and Co when or where to play them, he has no ability to make williams play them in this poz or that.

I dont see that CAC has done very much wrong.

your entitle to your opinion..

I'm not apologist for anyone. Hes done far more good than bad..

Daniher doesn't have the time to get out and see most of the potential recruits and must rely on CAC's recommendations.

only really want one to stay out of all that lot.. one Craig Cameron !!

he's been stirling and its hardly his fault his efforts arent realised and appreciated !!

Fagan seems to do ok ..

No one else is setting the world on fire !!

Why are you such an apologist for Cameron ?

I can't see that he's had such an impeccable record .He may have had a few successes with on - ballers along the way , but his record with KPP players leaves alot to be desired , IMO , and at the end of the day our success or otherwise is inextricably determined by big men not on- ballers .

Has a contingency plan been set for post Neitz life ? No, and the jury is out on Newton .

Is anyone being developed to assume a key defensive post ? Rivers will take one role , but we know Carroll is not the answer for the other , whilst Frawley will need 2 - 3 seasons .

Is anyone being groomed for CHF ? No , and there's nobody on the horizon .

Is anyone being groomed to assume the ruck mantle from White ? Jamar is not the answer , Johnson has improved out of sight , but will never be a number 1 , whilst Neaves has hardly set the TBO alight .

Ward - failed to inspire

Carroll - was totally overwhelmed

Bizzell - played with purpose

Bell - little to commend

Bate - an inconsistent performance

Wheatley - good when trying

Yze - a wasted selection

Pickett - fat and disinterested

Davey - just a shadow

Green - had little influence

White - our only winner

Johnson - just plodded along

Holland - gave his utmost

Petterd - showed some class

Frawley - out of depth

Bruce - disposal still amateurish

McDonald - surprisingly quiet game

McLean - not captain's performance

Godfrey - tried his hardest

Sylvia - continues to frustrate

Robertson - no second efforts

Jones - lacked peripheral vision

I was nearly murdered a few years ago for calling out to Lockyer that he should get a real ( first ) name .

Bell - maintaining the rage

Carroll - aggressive and reliable

Holland - was da man

Ward - tight and attacking

Bizzell - back to General

Johnstone - missed the flair

Bate - becoming so dependable

McDonald - prolific and dedicated

Davey - unusually unreliable disposal

Bruce - kicking was disgraceful

Sylvia - has finally arrived

McLean - everything one expects

Neitz - gave team direction

Robertson - loved centre stage

White - shared rucking honours

Johnson - gives us hope

Petterd - calm and assured

Frawley - suspect under pressure

Green - match saving mark

Jones - classy and aggressive

Wheatley - wonderful field kicking

Godfrey - disciplined and reliable

Ferguson,

Pettrd

It is certainly Brock to whom you refer .

He has an obviously highly toned and buffed upper body , but it is supported by puny , chicken - like pins .

I'd love Judd , but Pavlich is also coming off contract , and I'd love him more .

Brown - a vital component

Carroll - master of defence

Bizzell - flawed but useful

Bell - career best performance

Wheatley - defied the critics

Ward - effective but reckless

Johnstone - used only sparingly

McDonald - dynamic and important

Bate - applied himself well

Green - prolific possession winner

Bruce - gave team impetus

Robertson - had little influence

Neitz - always provided contests

White - experience paid dividends

McLean - great in bursts

Davey - sensational until injured

Johnson - improving each game

Jones - great early on

Petterd - showed excellent composure

Frawley - showed encouraging glimpses

Sylvia - displayed commendable aggression

Godfrey - wonderful stopping game

How much weight has been lost from players, from whom and how has it affected us?

From information I have seen there has been collectively about 12 kgs shed across the team list. Hardly puny players!

You may want to focus for starters why we are getting smashed continually in the centre clearances. McLean and Pickett missing????

Now there's something.

Next thing you know we will be blaming the push in the back rule for all our ills.

I'm talking about muscle not weight .

For starters, look at Miller , Jones , Carroll , Rivers , Bruce , even Neitz and McLean - they are all much less muscle-bound than they were last year . They are obviously not puny when compared with normal human beings , but line them up against The West Coast , Adelaide , Hawthorn , and even the Kangaroos , there is no denying that we pale significantly in strength , by comparison .

Fitness is not an issue .

The problem rests with the decision to scale back the weights and put the emphasis on lighter bodies and speed .

We can see the puny bodies against every team we've played this year , and ironically we appear to have become slower too .

On a scale of 1-10 ,I am probably at the lowest anticipatory level I've ever been in over 40 years of fanatically watching our beloved team .

Where are you on the scale ?

Brown - poor foot disposal

Carroll - excellent all day

Bizzell - fit and valuable

Holland - made few errors

Ward - was rarely noticed

Bell - dashing but loose

Johnstone - was well subdued

McDonald - a wonderful effort

Petterd - has been better

Frawley - out of depth

Miller - disappointed yet again

Davey - brilliant too rarely

Neitz - last quarter heroics

Robertson - had little influence

Johnson - starting to perform

White - started numerous thrusts

Dunn - had no influence

Bruce - a masterful display

Green - better when released

Godfrey - year's best game

Jones - an inspired game

McLean - showed his importance

The Melbourne Network

load of crap

Thank you so much for these words of wisdom .

Were you having a dig at my comments or the performance of the team ?

Johnstone - gave a damn

Brown - predictable and lamentable

Ward - tried breaking lines

Bell - an ordinary game

Carroll - overwhelmed and alone

Whelan - will obviously improve

Petterd - confident and commendable

Bate - barely a whimper

McDonald - outclassed and outmuscled

Godfrey - beaten not bowed

Sylvia - continuing his resurgence

Neitz - few important touches

Bruce - displayed little endeavour

Johnson - just a plodder

White - tried but overwhelmed

Ferguson - fated into oblivion

Green - numerous meaningless possessions

Yze - resurgence has abated

Davey - not his day

Miller - disappointed yet again

Dunn - not switched on

Jones - hopefully learnt lessons

Johnstone - gave a damn

EDIT >For those who are interested , I have had time to calm down and have provided a more detailed analysis on post # 25 .

Brown - never stopped trying

Carroll - variety of roles

Holland - a commendable performance

Ward - loose but useful

Bell - occasionally lost concentration

Dunn - surprisingly effective defender

Miller - barely a whimper

Davey - best on field

McDonald - excellent tagging game

Godfrey - succesfully negated West

Johnstone - returned to brilliance

Bate - beginning to flourish

Sylvia - may have arrived

Neitz - had no impact

Johnson - played his part

White - wonderful all day

Jones - couldn't find rhythm

Moloney - struggling with injury

Yze - occasional brilliant bursts

Green - made no impact

Warnock - instills no confidence

Bruce - excellent when freed

1 - Bruce ( not that he is necessarily worthy )

2 - Godfrey ( not that he is necessarily worthy )

3 - Rivers ( worthy of higher placement , but has missed )

Brown - played with endeavour

Carroll - a major contribution

Warnock - one costly error

Rivers - just so reliable

Bell - year's best tackle

Bruce - crucial skill errors

Johnstone - coming into form

Petterd - a rough diamond

Moloney - was rarely sighted

McDonald - wonderful defensive game

Godfrey - becoming Mr Reliable

Davey - on tight rein

Pickett - failed to deliver

Dunn - a major disappointment

Miller - little forward impact

Yze - prolific but wasteful

Neitz - needed more involvement

Johnson - worth his place

Bate - shades of greatness

White - best on field

Jones - a mature performance

Sylvia - a team game

Back from Sydney this arvo and I'm sorry I took on the responsibility of casting votes for Saturday night's game. Still, here goes -

6. Jared Rivers

5. Aaron Davey

4. Ricky Petterd

um, er

3. Cameron Bruce

2. Brent Moloney

1. Simon Godfrey

Despite your reservations I believe these players were worthy of the votes you afforded them .

Brown - time has elapsed

Carroll - instills no confidence

P Johnson - devoid of urgency

C. Johnson - showed gradual improvement

Rivers - totally dominated opponent

Bate - poor handling skills

Yze - back to mediocrity

Moloney - a determined effort

Petterd - outstanding debut performance

Garland - made no impact

Johnstone - was totally subdued

Davey - made impact again

Pickett - almost totally disinterested

Dunn - a disappointing result

Bell - some crucial errors

Miller - better up forward

Godfrey - showed great endeavour

Bruce - prolific ball winner

White - 4 quarter performance

Sylvia - couldn't find rhythm

Jamar - made no impact

McDonald - few centre clearances

Sydney

I was being facetious/rhetorical

I started the year with an anticipation level of 5 out of 10 prior to the StKilda game and now I'm not quite sure who we're playing this weekend , so I suppose I'm down to a 2 .

How have you fluctuated ?