joeboy

Is it possible to leave 6-3 blank? i thnk it would be fitting. Trengove 2, Scully 1.

6 - Grimes

5 - Trengove

4 - Scully

3 - Green

2 - Bruce

1 - Frawley

Bate - failed to impress

Bennell - mistake after mistake

Bruce - occasional positive involvement

Davey - lost on flank

Dunn - tried but failed

Frawley - abysmal kicking game

Green - our only forward

Grimes - amongst the better

Jamar - should have excelled

Jones - same old same

MacDonald - slow and unsure

McDonald - many meaningless possessions

Miller - had no influence

Moloney - career worst game

Petterd - doesn't deserve selection

Rivers - was rarely sighted

Scully - gradually gained confidence

Strauss - nowhere near ready

Trengove - gave exciting glimpses

Warnock - was emphatically beaten

McKenzie - not the worst

Spencer - slow and cumbersome

It used to be all about the W's... Whelan, Wheatley, Woewodin, Walsh, et al... Now it's the J's. Happy for the J's to take charge. May they prosper.

Maybe it's time for me to become J Boy

Warnock - little to commend

Jones - used ball well

Bate - needed the run

Miller - our only forward

Frawley - strong , poor disposal

Trengove - just a game

Sylvia - played 1 quarter

McKenzie - needs more time

Dunn - an impressive game

Petterd - probably 2 possessions

Green - easily our best

Maric - quiet 3 quarters

Moloney - just bombed ball

McDonald - worth his weight

Cheney - was rarely sighted

McNamara - little to commend

Scully - good but clumsy

Bruce - excellent in moderation

Martin - failed Bailey's directions

Davey - didn't push hard

Hughes - out of depth

Jamar - tried as expected

Spencer - needs more time

Bennell - often found out

Bail - was rarely sighted

Strauss - deserves his place

Not everyone thinks Jamar had a beauty. He got a few hitouts, he took a few marks.

But his ability to dispose of the football is as bad as it ever was. He either handballed to someone who was in no position to receive or he kicked to a contest, seemingly every time.

His direct opponent was rated as one the best on the ground by both papers.

I hadnt commented as many on here believed he played OK, but now that his game is being extolled as a beauty, I must stick my hand up and say i expected better.

Compared to Steph Martin, though he is gold...

I am certainly amongst the ones who attended the game on Saturday who believed that Jamar's game was top class .

There is no doubt in my mind that he clearly won the centre ruck duels with outstanding directional palming of the ball and strong work in close . Bearing in mind that this his pre season has been modified and restricted , I thought his performance was top class .

In further defence of his game , I cannot clearly remember one time that he failed to use the ball to his team's advantage , but even if he hadn't played well I'd agree with you that ' compared to steph Martin ' ..' he is gold '

BTW his opponents were rated on their performances up forward , not in the rucking contest , IMO.

Bail - little to enthuse

Bartram - very limited involvement

Bell - good on Watson

Bennell - loose and fumbled

Cheney - was rarely sighted

Fitzpatrick - had no possessions

Frawley - some uncharacteristic clangers

Grimes - one shining beacon

Jamar - dominated the hitouts

Jones - mistake riddled game

Jurrah - not our saviour

MacDonald - liked his game

Maric - just a child

Martin - certainly no ruckman

Miller - had no impact

Moloney - very quiet game

Morton - quiet before injury

Newton - limited game time

Petterd - only winning forward

Rivers - exceedingly quiet game

Scully - definitely showed class

Strauss - gradually showed something

Sylvia - wonderful first half

Trengove - very little impact

McKenzie - provided some energy

So you're suggesting Wheels is gone so the indigenous boys have lost there way...... One of the stupidest statements I have seen. Why would it make a difference one player has left? Is it an issue for Sylvia, Moloney and Bell that Wheatley is not longer at the club???

Tongue in cheek - but yes

Jurrah - embarrassing performance

Bennell - mistake ridden game

Davey - couldn't get near it

Jetta - clangers galore

Bail - a surprise packet

Bartram - showed improved skills

Bell - was rarely sighted

Bennell - assured and impressive

Cheney - was rarely sighted

Davey - had little involvement

Dunn - beefy but effective

Frawley - loved his application

Green - in the best

Fitzpatrick - nowhere near ready

Grimes - composed and unstoppable

Gysberts - had minimal impact

Jamar - played 2 quarters

Jetta - had little impact

Jones - an impressive game

Jurrah - the best forward

Maric - occasional poor disposal

Martin - not a ruckman

McNamara - had minimal impact

Miller - a regular contributer

Moloney - fit and strong

Morton - an excellent performance

Newton - little to enthuse

Petterd - noticeably stronger game

Rivers - enjoyed his enthusiasm

Strauss - valuable game experience

Sylvia - disposals at will

Warnock - was beaten early

Hughes - just a game

McKenzie - showed promising glimpses

Scully - better second half

Spencer - gaining in confidence

Trengove - reason for excitement

I only got to hear the latter portion of the interview this evening but can only marvel at the enthusiasm and dedication CC has for the club .

There was no doubting at any stage in the interview that he was not trying to drum up memberships with his super positive slant on things , and it was only when the name Jim Stynes was brought up that he mellowed somewhat , but still managed to draw a positive out of the inspiration the President brought to the club just by his presence .

Amongst the many significant comments he made was the mention of how exciting it was to have the raw brilliance of Trengrove ( his pronounciation )and Scully . He had no doubt that they were ready made players but would most likely be held back through the year to ensure they were not overworked .

Grimes was mentioned as being a likely backman , even though he was being used on the ball at training . Of significance , he pointed out , was how highly Gimes had been regarded by his peers after being just pipped in the vote for a leadership role , even though he'd only played 12 games .

CC made mention of the backline , after coaxing by The Ox , and believed that a fit Garland , coupled with superfit Rivers , a powerful and confident Frawley and Warnock , and the brilliance of the rebounding Grimes and Bennell would be the catalyst for ongoing success .

Wona was mentioned as being on target for round one as he appears to have overcome the persistant soft tissue niggles of last year , whilst Watts gives constant reminders at training as to why he was so highly regarded as a junior , and with further work on his 90kg body there was no doubt that he would be thrilling supporters for years .

Moloney was given rave reviews by CC because of his obvious heart on sleeve love for the club , along with his his willingness to foster this adoration amongst the newer members of the playing group .

The ruck division was touted as being te main area for concern , with Spencer viewed as the long term heir to the number 1 position , though he believed the club was extremely fortunate to snare Gawn and Fitzpatrick with late selections , ostensibly because of prior injuries that had befallen them last year .It was perhaps telling that Jamar and Johnson were relegated to ' fighting for the ruck position 'along with Meesen , and the previously mentioned draftees .

Finally , and most affectingly was his comment that the players were jumping out of their skins and ready to play today .

He's burning up the track.

He's not really ' burning up the track ' but he IS showing terrific application along with Trengove and Tapscott , in particular .

Petterd a spare parts player at best so far. He has good reasons but must step up strait away or realistically could be trade bait! Not in my best 22 at the moment but could be with some consistent games early. Has to assert his class.....cannot afford to be a passenger in this club these days. Must force selectors thinking.

Not in my starting 22 either but as a regular attendee at training this year I can vouch for the fact that he has not been idle over Summer and is looking exceedingly fit and strong .

By your report we only have one fit ruckman--- Martin---is that correct??

PJ

I was there for about 90 minutes and witnessed an impressive and vigorous session.

My most enduring memory of proceedings though was seeing Jim Stynes walking the boundry and personally greeting every supporter . Certainly he continues to look frail and gaunt but his firm handshake suggests that he is doing well .

The young and lively recruits , as expected , tended to draw the most attention , and of the newbies Tapscott continues to impress me the most , and not just for his amazing build .

From my recollection all players were doing some form of training , but those precluded from kicking were in a group comprising : Wona , Bate , Garland , Spencer , Gawn , Blease , Jamar .

Scully was doing kicking work and as we can expect , he was focussed and driven in all his movements .

I was impressed with Sylvia's work ethic along with usual suspects Jones and Moloney .

Special reference should also be made of Mega who gladdened the heart of a 'slow ' young supporter by spending around 10 minutes of kick to kick with him before serious training began .

I concur

He WAS running and he WAS handballing - he wasn't kicking and he did go bike riding

I didn't mention it in my earlier thread , and the point doesn't appear to have been noted by other attendees today , but Matty Bate has worked overtime in the gym over the break and his upper body shape is actually very distinctive now .

I have no hesitation in saying that he is now built along the lines we'd expect of a full time CHF - he has the height , smarts , kicking skills , and now , strength , to make this most important of positions his own .

I stayed for 90 minutes , until the heat overwhelmed me , and the following observations were noted:

Scott West seemed to be issuing most of the instructions and I didn't notice if Bailey was present .

Morton has finally developed a chest and arm definition.He is also wearing his hair longer .

Moloney has massive arms

Tapscott is extremely fit and strong .

Scully is very scrawny and pale , but knows how to handle the football .

Jurrah did not train with the main group , but did 200m run throughs only , and appeared to be struggling .

Wona also did run throughs , without discomfort , but was not the lithe bodied player we noted at pre season last year .

Garland was involved in alot of the main drills , though I didn't notice him kicking . He appeared fit and strong .

Watts , like Morton , has developed definition in his arms and shoulders , but still appears to need significant more building up before he can hold his own amongst the Scarletts of the world .

Sylvia looks remarkable and appears to bear the same countenance that led me to predict his coming out season last year , about the same time of year . He will have a top season if his body stands up !

Gawn and Spencer are both huge boys , with the latter having obviously added significantly to last year's relatively light frame .

Green looks supremely fit .

Davey was enthusiastic and involved as ever - he is a leader .

Trengove showed classy movement with the ball .

Gysberts is a nice , smooth mover and seemed to enjoy his involvement at training .

Maric doesn't look scrawny or hunched now ,and appears to have worked hard and unhindered in the pre season.

Jamar didn't seem to do anything other than slow laps from my observation .

Dunn was probably the most enthusiastic trainer in at my view . He did everything with thorough conviction and application and enthusiasm .

Newton was also an impressive trainer , much to the dismay of many at Demonland , I'm sure .

Already 104kg's(?) He should be ready to go early on next year. Exciting prospect.

Watch footage of him on You Tube and you'll be hugely impressed .

He's a boy mountain , and obviously still growing , whilst his athleticism for one so tall is outstanding , as is his desire to put himself into a contest .

I think we can feel as excited about this one as we do about our first two picked prodigies .

I think he's one of the few people who actually live up to a saying they like to use, I can't remember the exact words but it was along the lines of 'What we're doing isn't unique, but it is special'.

Sums up his whole attitude to managing the club - not looking for magic bullets and messiahs, just picking out all the things that need to be set right or done well, and doing them.

Would anyone else understand what I meant if I said that for the first time I can recall, it feels like we really have a CEO as a CEO, a president for a president, and a footy manager as footy manager?

As a club, we've never been better run. Ever.

The quinella of Cardwell and Smith would be hard to beat .

Did this go ahead or did it get lost in all the Fev commotion?

Yes it did go ahead .

He explained that as far as he and the club were concerned Aaron was going nowhere else , ever , and that he believed Flash was always staying .

He thought it was important , in the light of Brock's departure , that the club was seen to be proactive , and that the signing of Davey was crucial as he now assumed the role of mentor to the ' indigenous crew 'after Wheels' departure .

When questioned , he did not rule out Aaron's elevation to captaincy in 2011 .

Harsh joeboy.

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Oh sorry. Force of habit.

Happy new year!

Yes on reflection I may have been a little harsh . I should have said GOOD NEW YEAR

HAPPY NEW YEAR

With the possible onset of a number of faster running midfielders I see him finding a place as a hard nosed , hard bodied back pocket , in the Matty Whelan mould .

From the accounts posted here about Morabito , he sounds very much like an early Moloney who could grab the ball and kick the crap out of it without being too concerned as to its destination .

We know now that Moloney has been able to change his kicking for good and not evil , so there is no reason why Morabito cannot be taught the same skill whilst he is still young and impressionable .

Raines specialty is to provide run. The problem is, he deliberately runs into traffic , gets pressured and gives a hospital handpass to a team mate or kicks it very poorly to them.

Just no.

Sounds like a little bald guy who plays for us !