joeboy

I'm NEVER one to exaggerate or overstep the mark! Ok, ok , maybe I did treat him too harshly in my grading ( or is that degrading) of him , but he was a useless footballer and only Bode, Weetra, Mahoney, and Grgic have been worse, in my memory. And before anyone gets stuck into me for my callous criticism of him , let me point out that I've been a Demons' fan and member for 49 years, and seen more crappy Melbourne players than I care to remember. Furthermore, up until a few years ago I'd even argue that I've seen more Melbourne games than virtually anyone here, so I'm entitled to make ludicrous judgement calls as I see fit!

Was probably one of the worst footballers ever to represent the club , so it's pleasing to see that he found his place in life

Recruit him without hesitation !!!

1- N.Jones 2 - Tyson 3 - Vince 4 - McDonald 5 - Dunn 6 - Cross 7 -Pedersen 8 - Jamar 9 - Jetta 10 Watts / Howe

Personally I agree about Jetta.. much overrated here

N.Jones - the supreme performer Grimes - never got going Hogan - weight of expectation Salem - adulation was unwarranted Watts - year's greatest disappointment Toumpas - couldn't gain momentum Dawes - stagnated after brilliance Viney - failed to inspire Frawley - dependable and versatile Trengove - cruelled by injury Byrnes - failed to deliver Clark - no comment necessary Tyson - performances belied inexperience McKenzie - tagger without skills Dunn - found his niche Clisby - couldn't find mojo Kent - teased and faltered Blease - disappointed us all Cross - made his mark Strauss - couldn't impress selectors Garland - seen better years Pedersen - rejuvenated and reinvented Michie - injuries curtailed advancement Vince - professional and skilled Kennedy - Harris - early exciting form McDonald - was rarely beaten Nicholson - papers are marked Riley - rough and ready Hunt - the jury's out Evans - little to show Barry - improver , but raw Tapscott - little to impress Gawn - never gathered momentum Howe - talented but lazy Jamar - worthy but slowing Spencer - work in progress Bail - just filling in M.Jones - showed average skills Terlich - the turnover specialist Fitzpatrick - rarely utilised height Jetta - feel good story Georgio - surprisingly sparingly used Harmes - impressed Casey regulars King - jury is out

N.Jones - workhorse, as expected Watts -better , still frustrating Dawes -passion, little purpose Viney -passion ,poor decisions Frawley - passionless , serviceable game Tyson - prolific, slow thinking McKenzie - dedicated, skill deprived Dunn - was soundly destroyed Kent - revealed undoubted talent Cross - limited but professional Michie - has some talent Vince - loved his attitude McDonald - passionate and willing Riley - ferocious but rough Barry - eat some food Gawn - unsighted before injury Howe - failed to inspire Jamar - tried but failed Bail - only occasion involvements M.Jones - what's his purpose? Fitzpatrick - waste of height Jetta - loose but dedicated

6 - Vince ( a class ahead of anyone else in our team this game) 5 - Tyson ( intelligent footballer who amassed heaps of possessions , but infuriatingly seems to encounter mental blocks) 4 - McDonald ( hates to lose , has passion, but needs to master his foot skills) 3 - Kent ( a break out game too late to build momentum on ) 2 - N.Jones ( workhorse, who was prolific but not a standout ) 1 - Cross ( sad we have to play him, but age hasn't wearied)

They'll come next week.

N.Jones - 30+ mostly hard fought possessions , and you gave 6 players votes before him ?????

6 - N.Jones ( by a street ) 5 - Cross ( slow, but makes up for it with nous) 4 - Vince ( for weight of possessions ) 3 - Tyson ( plenty of possessions but has become soooo slow to move the ball on ) 2 - Dunn ( for trying and taking the game on ) 1 - Bail ( for trying and taking the game on )

N.Jones - carbon copy game Salem - had little impact Watts - nothing of note Dawes - waste of space Viney - disposal was amateurish Frawley - tried but failed Tyson - rarely hurt opposition Dunn - performed task admirably Kent - was rarely sighted Cross - professional tagging role Garland - excellent until injured Pedersen - made little impression Michie - rarely hurt opposition Vince - prolific and cared McDonald - loose and erratic Gawn - little to commend Howe - lazy and loose Jamar - end of era Bail - tried but limited M.Jones - has no tricks Fitzpatrick - 2 minute game Jetta - slow and loose

Good luck in your endeavours

I've been sleepless over our performances since 1965.. Roos should consider himself lucky

The sad thing is that all of these attempts at selecting a viable 2015 team reek of same old same old.. we're doomed for 10 years if we're relying on the likes of Dawse, Garland, Watts , Grimes,, Howe , and others to suddenly become consistent and effective footballers . We've seen years and years of the same rubbish from the same people ,to know that they're not EVER going to be up to it!

6 - N.Jones ( cared and tried to make a difference) 5 - Gawn ( was almost unsighted , but less than most others ) 4 - Jetta ( was slow , and loose , but he gave a damn ) 3 - Dunn ( the ONLY player in our team who could hit a target) 2 - Vince ( for his first quarter ) 1 - Tyson ( for lots of possessions , though most were irrelevant)

N.Jones - never stopped trying Grimes - unsighted until injured Salem - miles from ready Watts - embarrassing and insipid Dawes - probably not awake Viney - horrible decision making Frawley - scared off suitors Tyson - prolific not effective Dunn - played with professionalism Kent - disposal from hell Cross - age has wearied Garland - was barely interested Michie - little to commend Vince - one great quarter McDonald - some dumb decisions Riley - tried but irrelevant Barry - little to commend Gawn - showed some skills Howe - arrogant and lazy Jamar - time has passed M.Jones - was barely noticed Jetta - loose and slow

Heard him being interviewed on SEN this evening and completely changed my opinion of him. He spoke glowingly of his time at the club , even lovingly. He bore no malice towards anyone, even Neeld, and was extremely gracious and modest about his achievements in the AFL . He went out with class, in my opinion

6 - Jetta ( great reinvention) 5 - Gawn ( at least he gave us some hope ) 4 - Tyson ( prolific , though rarely used his possessions to advantage ) 3 - Howe ( classy and smart , but was very loose ) 2 - Riley ( showed dash and aggression) 1 - Jamar ( palmed well , usually to advantage )

N.Jones- had little impact Watts - relevant no longer Dawes - tried without impacting Viney - failed to impose Frawley - going through motions Tyson - prolific , not damaging Dunn - just a game Kent - was rarely sighted Cross - professional as expected Garland - was hardly noticed Michie - a Casey performance Kennedy - Harris - just a kid McDonald - amateur against professional Riley - effective when subbed Barry - some hurried efforts Gawn - one promising light Howe - loose but classy Jamar - probably broke even Bail - continued poor form M.Jones - little to commend Jetta - brave and relentless Vince - few worthwhile possessions

Firstly, they were never my words.. I only suggested that he may not be the Messiah

If you want to get personal then perhaps you should just open up Uranus and hop in

Add to the list that perhaps Roos isn't the Messiah after all. Looking closely at who on our list has actually improved under him: Dunn, definitely Pedersen , certainly McDonald , arguably Jetta, yep That's it.

6 - Howe ( excellent disposal , regularly broke the lines ) 5 - McDonald ( was the mainstay of defence and was rarely beaten 1 on 1 ) 4 - Jetta ( easily beat his opponent but his disposal was erratic ) 3 - Jones ( prolific, but ignored first options , at the team's expense) 2 - Tyson ( read comments for Jones) 1 - Dunn ( rarely made an error )

Jones - ignored first options Watts - abysmal and embarrassing Dawes - not on field Viney - lost in transit Frawley - missing second half Tyson - horribly wasteful disposal McKenzie - competition's worst disposalist Dunn - persisted,unlike others Garland - was rarely sighted Pedersen - was rarely sighted Vince - uncharacteristically wasteful disposal Kennedy - Harris - fumbled his chances McDonald - outstanding all game Riley - no genuine skill Tapscott - little before injury Howe - easily our best Jamar - only broke even Bail - played little part Terlich - worst decision maker Jetta - tried but limited Kent - occasionally showed potential Blease- nothing to like