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Yes there are ghettos of decency where people care and there is a strong sense of community.

Agree , most over rated city in the world. All marketing and spin. Heading all one way. Down. Have been living away this year and you suddenly realise that Melbourne is becoming unaffordable and unliveable with the city ruled by developers, corrupt politicians and local councils and a dog eat dog mentality amongst the mob. Exciting city, no, dysfunctional, yes. It is becoming a city with no kindness or heart. It is a city losing its soul. It is a city dictated by real estate, how to make a quick buck, poverty and desperation. Sorry, it has good coffee and food. As If we need more coffee and food. The only redeeming feature is the MFC. And this web site.

Sums my view as well. We took a coach and two players who were in it up to their eyeballs. And we nearly had Dank associated with the club. So we need to be careful talking about principles and damning the players and the EFC. We had an opportunity to take a principled stand but fell at the hurdle and decided to take an expedient or practical decision. We have got a good coach and two good players but at the expense of principle (my view). Our club position is a disappointment to me, but time to move on.

But WJ he is completely mad.

Bent but Optimistic, you can avoid reading altogether by dipping into the Kama Sutra if you are looking for imaginative poses and still find comfort in knowing that you are looking at a classic piece of Hindu literature that preaches pleasure and spirituality. You seem to have a lot of the former but need a dose of the latter. Or in other words, you have Kama (Desire) but desperately need Moksha (Liberation), Your days are running out.

The guy is wasting everyone's time, but he does not care. He is not interested in anyone else, he is not interested in process, and the truth is something to be manipulated to suit his own purpose. He will say whatever he needs to today and then move on to something else tomorrow. He is without guilt, shame or conscience. Very similar to a President elect.

Agree, wish it would go away and we hear no more about Watson and his lost Brownlow. Opinions on this are always going to be divided due to ignorance, biases or beliefs. I disagree with your last sentence. For effective enforcement, WADA and ASADA need the cooperation of sporting bodies. Unfortunately, this does not happen because the sporting bodies don't like any interference from those outside the sport. Its about power and the sporting bodies protecting the business and the brand. For WADA and ASADA to do their job effectively they need to be working in a cooperative environment. There needs to be agreement on the principles surrounding the use of performance enhancing drugs and the methods used to enforce those principles. The enforcement authorities are not clowns, they are folk trying to do a job in a difficult environment without obstacles being placed in their way.They need adequate funding and total support from Government and the sporting bodies. Blame the latter two for messy processes and outcomes.

Watson has finally done the right thing. All the comments by Watson and the support crew are just window dressing designed to make people feel better and gloss over the most shameful episode in the history of the game. But Junior you make a very good point. The AFL should have acted on this a long time ago, rather than allow Watson to hand it back. More window dressing that sends all the wrong messages regarding drugs in sport. As you state, spineless. Or that's just business and the way things operate in the AFL bubble.

Now your getting greedy Daisy

Confirmed on club website. The play of the day, and so far both gets the plays of the trade round.

I agree but seriously..."they need to understand they did the wrong thing.... ". Are you kidding. Not about to happen now.

Maple, if you are a worldly person, take an interest in all manner of things and generally have an interesting life, not much at all. Remember, it's only Aussie Rules, and, in the case of this thread, a world of fantasy, that eccentrics, ratbags, sickos and misfits inhabit. Did I mention someone? No just thinking of him.

And we hired Goodwin, contracted Melksham and are trying to contract Hibberd.

Happy to be ignored, perfectfully normal when your dead.

My gosh Red, I will be forced to change my ways or not look at this thread. Big call from Uncle Ernie. Remember that night time and day time are all the same to me. So there is no time routine around my activities,

Thanks Mandee. McDevitt's comments provide the clarity around personal responsibility/accountability. For me, case closed. In no other sport would we be having this discussion.

Just fell off my chair, a straight honest answer from a lawyer. A rare virtue these days.

Well, old friend, I could have told you that 18 months ago but I have enjoyed and approved of your always well reasoned analysis, logic and outrage. In all your posts you carried the flag for clean sport and accountability admirably without compromise or appeasement.

Yes he probably deserves the benefit of doubt Daisy. I would not normally give a lawyer such liberty or consideration, but Redlegs posts do suggest he is a good bloke.

I would have expected that you were more protective of your personal and professional reputation Redleg. I had the mistaken idea that were a person of taste and a certain lets just say "je ne sais quoi."

One also has to understand that some people are without shame. Society consists of the cheaters and the cheated. More often than not, cheaters are without shame. That's why they are cheaters. From beginning to finish, the EFC and its acolytes have had no shame.

Perhaps deluded and certainly completely lacking any objectivity. I suppose, he could argue it is an opinion piece, but given it's lack of objectivity due to his biases, completely unprofessional. I suppose in fairness and given his own limitations, one has to understand that he has to maintain the consistency of his past scribbles over the past few years and also maintain his low journalistic standard.

What does Mrs Frog feel about your move? Is she croaking with joy or dismay?

Uncle, I still take a peak you know. No moral dilemma there.

A round with The Fence in a white HT Holden. The tastes suggest that the girls were all class. Even if you take the Holden or the Fence out of the picture.