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scully said as much the year he left. words mean nothing Hogan cant predict the future so doesnt want to say something he might regret even if he is 99% sure. fair enough i reckon

the headlines in the papers are a disgrace. NEVER before has a player with 2 year left on a contract had the headline: "talks put off til the end of season". that phrase always refers to a player having one season left on their contract. the casual observer (idiot) that doesnt read the article will look at that and say - oh Hogan is gone. just puts pressure on hogan and is negative publicity for the Dees. The media always kicks clubs when they are down (aside from the bombers). when we win a few they'll be the first to jump on the bandwagon saying we will make the top 4. such lazy, biased journalism

One thing is for sure, it's officially time to panic!!

All we can do is hope Toumpas turns it around and becomes the better player

im wondering if it more the trend of inside, strongly built mids being a safer bet with a high pick. Guys like Toump, O'rourke, Aish that are elite users of the ball and that killed it in the juniors just dont seem to have as good as strike rate as the more inside bigger guys - Brayshaw, Wines etc. not saying it is that cut and dry but it may be a trend. all about risk and reward I guess. we would have argued in 2012 that Wines will have a impact straight away but his ceiling is not very high. but these days you dont need too many elites users of the ball - once you can kick well, its all about the stoppages

The under18 Talent dude was on SEN this morning - he is also affiliated with the geelong falcons. sorry didnt hear his name or title properly as my 2 yo was yelling nonsense (takes after his old man) he was a massive wrap for Parish. paraphrasing: most complete midfielder, will go in top 5. likened him to Joel Selwood! and this is not a he might turn out like selwood - he said that at the same age they are very similar. Andy M asked about the knocks on him not being as super competative as Selwood and he said Parish is a country boy and is hard at it and driven to succeed. he mentioned, curnow and mathison as well and was positive but not nearly as glowing as for Parish by the end of it I was pretty keen on parish!

of course not. I just take her opinion into account

i have to admit it is concerning that EQ think Parish is the 14th best talent (best available) in this draft and we may take him with 3. I have no clue about how good these kids are but the one thing I have noticed is that Parish is not often referred to as hard/tough or massively competitive like a lot of the others in the top 14. also his slight frame has been highlighted. I know we cant have a team of Vineys but these outisde players seem riskier than the Brayshaws of the world. tough choice! it would be fascinating to know if the Dees already knew who we would take at 3 when we traded for it or the plan was just to have 2 top picks

A big off season? They are 3 average players. They may improve our depth but we won't be seeing finals.

Good work dees get in early. We should to get him locked away for the next 7-8 years soon. He is the game changer. Pay him whatever.

I'm over being angry at this coz I don't have the energy. Welcome milkshake. May you prove goody a genius.

The MilkShake has officially put in a trade request. Essendon are "extremely dissapointed" with his decision i.e. they want a good draft pick for him

Melksham was pretty left-field just sayin

Second rounder for melksham! Fark me! Can only pray this isn't true.

has averaged 16 touches over his career has never proven himself a competent mid

Fk me. Melksham? I still cant get my head around this. Saying he is better than Mckenzie, Bail etc is not saying much as they are some of the worst in the league and will be delisted. 3rd round pick at most trying to be positive.... maybe Goody can turn him around maybe he wont be banned by WADA. he should do well at casey

Agreed HH. This guy is a poor afl player. The only thing is that Goodwin must see something in him as he would know him so well But fk me I fail to see any upside or how he would provide any value to us And we certainly shouldn't recruit someone coz they are a marginal upgrade on our worst listed player

very average player. wouldnt be interested

I wonder if GC regret not picking Hoges in the mini draft. Jack "he's better than O'Meara" Martin hasnt looked great. 8 goals from 8 games. so skinny that he can really only play forward pocket. Martin will get better but how could you pass over the Hulk??? nice to finally get one right!!

why has he not been upgraded already? two on the LTI list he has played NAB and at casey. whats the deal?

Damn. I agree with all that

please don't get me started on the raising the drafting age debate again we wouldnt have even seen Wines play if it was raised! there is some guess work in drafting. too bad sorry, had to jump on the soap box

I hear what you are saying. we have definately drafted the wrong sort. But I think you can trade in stars. Apart from Hogan I see Tyson as the player with the biggest star potential on our list. So I reckon a combination on good trades and kids in draft is the go. unless no-one trades reasonably and if so, we hit the draft and hope for some stars. Lets hope the draft is more 2001 and less 2003 (although I get the feeling it more 2003)

I can't believe after the last 7 years people are still talking about Petrecca etc as 'guns' when he is a potential gun. how many times should we get burnt by assuming these kids will be a Judd or Dangerfield? Im not saying we should trade out all picks but we need to treat all picks as a risk. With top 5 picks you have about 50% chance of a very good or star player. the other 50% are either just ok or injured or just no good. (not basing this on any evidence :-) ) so the question is, are these guys good enough to warrant us taking the risk on, or is there better players on AFL lists we can trade in? Is petrecca as good as a Whitfield/Treloar or more of a O'rourke/toumpas. glad im not making the call!!