ManDee

Unfortunately it is only the 40-49yo's now eligble for Phizer, we over 50's still second grade citizens.

Bob I agree there are limited doses available, I agree that the under 50's are at a slightly higher risk of blood clots. Can you agree that those that want to be vaccinated should be able to now, and that those that are prepared to wait have the right to do so? I put it to you that there are not enough doses or capacity at the moment to vaccinate everyone that wants a vaccine now. I am an adult and understand the risks. I will give up my place in the queue to someone who wants AZ now and will happily wait until the vaccine I choose is available, I will wait my turn. Your assertion that my attitude will extend lock-downs for many more months is factually incorrect. If I give up my place to an under 50 that wants to be vaccinated now it does not extend any lock-down. The vaccine queue is no longer, I simply move back in the queue. My choice.

Faulty, I have just been checking some UK stat's. The under 50's are about twice as likely to get blood clots than over 50's from AZ. It is still a very low number compared to the pill for instance. But why are older people being used to get rid of the surplus drug. We could do as other countries have done and given it to poorer desperate countries. We will all probably have to have the mRNA drugs eventually anyway to combat the mutations.

I'm over 50, give me the same vaccine as the under 50's or are we second class citizens? I am not anti vaccine. I would be happy to pay, I would be happy to travel to get a jab, but no I can only get the cheap less effective more dangerous vaccine. If you under 50's disagree you get the AZ vaccine, you can if you want to.

Not all vaccines are equal against all strains. mRNA's appear to be more effective against more strains. It seems that all the vaccines have similar efficacy when they work. The blood clot issue is minor unless you are the unlucky one.

I agree OD, it is your choice. But I don't think your 70yo mate is a problem, he is simply making a choice. If I lived in Melbourne now or many overseas locations I'd have AZ tomorrow. I am also waiting for an mRna jab, but I'm keeping my eye on the situation.

Of bird flu?

I understand OD, but your dig at your 70yo mate as if he puts others at risk I think is misplaced. One of the problems with AZ is the overall efficacy rate against all strains of Covid. If as been quoted it is about 65% effective you need close to 100% take up to achieve herd immunity. The mRna jabs over 88% effective meaning approx 70% take up achieves herd immunity. My feeling is that eventually we will all be offered an mRna vaccine even those that have had the AZ Rna jabs. Any way stay safe my friend.

I understand that even if you are fully vaccinated you can catch and spread Covid19, you may not show symptoms or they may be less severe. So how does your 70yo friend in a non danger area cause a problem? Australia has approx 85 active cases in 25,000,000 people. How does your 70yo friend preferring a better (edit - and safer) drug upset you?

So Bob, why are they food vans? ?

Might have trouble squeezing in, considering all the seeing eye dogs.

Buller, BULLER or as we locals say, the hill.

I will take that as an admission that you were wrong.

Why don't you look yourself? You made the outrageous statement without doing any research that 9-0 teams rarely win premierships and recent history shows around 50% win. Further I see little relevance to data from 100 years ago in a very differently structured competition.

Years of data can indicate what happened. It may be used as a guide but no guarantee of the future. But you know that, you read the data.

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You know that there is no law of averages, it's a myth.

So why did you do it?

Obviously

There goes the percentage ?

His sister would be more my style, but each to his own.

Could be his neck measurement.

My trolldar is going crazy. Bells, whistles, sirens, buzzers, red flags and the most accurate of all the sphincter pucker. Danger danger Will Robinson Fe fi fo fum I smell a troll. But I could be wrong, it has happened before, 1965 I remember it well.

Who is "he"?

Will they announce the teams at half time?