Clayton van Oliver

Are we there yet? ?

Indeed, if we get massive overs. 2 first rounders + something for Josh and Todd to play with

Unless it's for way, way overs, I would rather not trade Hogan this year, win a flag with him next year, and then who cares?

To Greg ✊

Reporting from Amsterdam, just bloody got home from work, 5 hours kip then went against the Coco's experience, and instead will head to a private viewing, mainly due to sheer brown pantsness about it all.

Mother-son pick (2-for-the-price-of-1)?

Funnily enough, as a drunk 31 yr old in a pub in Amsterdam, I've pondered this very question a number of times this year. Always went 5 for Schwarta so if I was a kid prob Tracc. Think 31 will get pretty popular again in coming years...

I see that Sleepy Spargo's 'needs a nap' brigade is out in force again, even though he gets the week off that everyone's been clamouring for

Happy with all this. Good to see sleepy spargo have his naptime put off for another week

All great kicks and moments... But Salem's. Never seen anything like it. The perfect, under-pressure and unconventional, 15m snap on the wing.

Ain't nothing boring about love for the ox. My first superstar love was Jacko, even called my dog Jakovich. But he disappeared, and in my memories of being 6 or 7, with Jacko gone, this absolute gun arose in the realm of my reverence. I saw how excited my old man got, talking about what we saw him do, and his first knee was my first realisation that injury is a thing that brings heartache to player, club and supporter. Seeing Ox react like that after our win over WC merged the aspirations of the young, brilliant footy player long gone, with the emotions of the now supporter, bearing a love for the club strong enough to make you shout at inanimate objects that can'tshout back, and which we all share. How many times would the ox have wished he could be on the field during the dark years? That somebody would represent the jumper in a way worthy of what it means? And now, finally, we have all seen them do that; a whole team of them just bloody representing. And as a plus we got to see footage of the Ox, virtually standing alongside us, screaming, jumping, hyperventilating and finally cheering with glory and relief. [censored] brilliant. Ta, Mrs Ox.

Apologies if already been said, but what Spargo does is keep running to the next contest. Won't be dropped on that alone. Him pushing himself to be yet another link resulted in several crucial offensive forays on Sunday. Edit, wording

It's all been said, but how he responded to criticisms of his leadership, post swans match, makes me so proud. Reckon we've been waiting years for these kinds of moments, and thrre are more coming. Jones' steely determination in that he WC game was borne of the same perennial frustrations. He'd had enough, and there was just no way he was going to let us lose. Very Jack Viney of him

AmDam's one word analysis of this thread: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Great pressure today, thought the third tier players like Kent and the Wied lifted in the 2nd half, allowed us to hold on. How good was Nev's mark?

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Grab one of the watchafl subscriptions. It does mean giving money to the evil empire but yea, it works

MFC - We are coming

Fantastic result. What more can be said about Clarrie? A magician. A freak. The boy can football and it could turn out that he can do it better than anyone, ever. Brayshaw, Tracc and rest of young brigade awesome. Thought ANB did some nice things. Harmes cracking job. Jeffy's little flashes of brilliance were amongst the most exciting moments of the game. How was Melksham's one-step-50m-snap-leg-break? You can't lament not defending a five goals lead when we did defend it. They could have gotten 4.5 back and we would still, by definition, have defended it. These games we're going through are reminiscent to me of the close ones the Hawks started to have prior to their era of dominance and also the Eagles of the early-mid 2000s. Although I am probably remembering wrong and/or projecting onto this team my expectations that we are about to become a [censored] powerhouse. In a season where GCS beat Sydney, Carlton win anything at all and North thumps WCE, I'll take any win, in any way. Who was the turd commentating on Fox footy? Derwayne? To whoever kept calling Tex Walker "The big Texan", like 9 times, firstly he's not from Texas, and secondly 'A big Texan' is not in reference to anything relevant or, indeed, to anything at all. Noticed we started winning when I switched to the ABC stream, so that must be the key to our impending success. Go you mighty, [censored] Dees! Ed: sp

Just realised I've spent years in a forum talking footy with a bunch of bots and Nasher. ?

Geez some of the MFCSS wrist slashing on here is ridiculous and short sighted. We've waited so long to be a great side that none of us, even those who can remember the 60s, recognise the process that it takes to become one. We are nowhere near there, but it is happening. Doesn't happen overnight or necessarily in 4 or even 5 years. Look at the Frozen water coached Cats of the 2000s. Look at Richmond; look at where they were and the time the club gave Hardwick to learn his trade and figure out how to make them great. Compare that to the Dogs, who did it as a one off and will wallow in mediocrity again for the next 50 years. Relevant to this is the [censored] being heaped on Lewis. He knows the process and is guiding our next generational champions to fulfilling their potential. No doubt he is getting close, but he still puts in cracking matches and makes good decisions. He also comes from that Hawks culture that the team and club come first, and that is the culture that will make us great. He will be one of those for whom we can thank for what is coming. Temperance, Demonlanders. Temperance. Edit: In: Vince Out: Lewis (joke) Out: J Smith Also, Fritsch doing his own wingman version of Lever's role is something I can get behind

We played this bye rd perfectly. Come out in 4th. Go Dees.

Yea we've got Ned the Flower-pot head, who has an amazing sense of balance, although last I saw him was a year or so ago when I walked out of a bar in the wee hours and almost trod on him doing push ups on the street out front. Massive game from Hoges again today. He is breaking this comp open. Could be better than Carey if he can start dobbing them from 50+ What an absolute gun.

This is the game I remember. Shocking first half and then just absolutely magical. The Wiz; he'd have to give it a shake for best small forward of all time.

Not even Jack Viney could make Jack Viney cry