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Mum's uncle's cousin's friend's cab driver's brother's neighbour's nephew is also up there.
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I must have been crazy to think we'd finish top 2 on the back of 2018 so I guess this isn't that crazy.
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INDICATIVE DRAFT ORDER (after the home and away season) ROUND ONE 1. Gold Coast 2. Melbourne 3. Adelaide (received from Carlton) 4. Sydney 5. St Kilda 6. Fremantle 7. North Melbourne 8. Carlton (received from Adelaide) 9. Port Adelaide 10. Hawthorn 11. Greater Western Sydney (received from Essendon) 12. Western Bulldogs 13. Greater Western Sydney 14. West Coast 15. Brisbane (received from Collingwood) 16. Richmond 17. Gold Coast (received from Brisbane) 18. Geelong ROUND TWO 19. Brisbane (received from Gold Coast) 20. Melbourne 21. Adelaide (received from Carlton) 22. West Coast (received from Sydney) 23. Sydney (received from St Kilda) 24. Fremantle 25. North Melbourne 26. Adelaide 27. Port Adelaide 28. Hawthorn 29. Essendon 30. Western Bulldogs 31. Essendon (received from Greater Western Sydney) 32. West Coast 33. Collingwood 34. Richmond 35. Brisbane 36. Geelong ROUND THREE 37. Richmond (received from Gold Coast) 38. Melbourne 39. Carlton 40. Sydney 41. Western Bulldogs (received from St Kilda) 42. Brisbane (received from Fremantle) 43. North Melbourne 44. Carlton (received from Adelaide) 45. Hawthorn (received from Port Adelaide) 46. Western Bulldogs (received from Hawthorn) 47. Essendon 48. Western Bulldogs 49. Greater Western Sydney 50. Sydney (received from West Coast) 51. Collingwood 52. Gold Coast (received from Richmond) 53. Brisbane 54. Geelong ROUND FOUR 55. St Kilda (received from Gold Coast) 56. Melbourne 57. Sydney (received from Carlton) 58. Sydney 59. West Coast (received from St Kilda) 60. Essendon (received from Fremantle) 61. Port Adelaide (received from North Melbourne) 62. Port Adelaide (received from Adelaide) 63. Port Adelaide 64. Collingwood (received from Hawthorn) 65. Essendon 66. Port Adelaide (received from Western Bulldogs) 67. Carlton (received from Greater Western Sydney) 68. St Kilda (received from West Coast) 69. Collingwood 70. Richmond 71. North Melbourne (received from Brisbane) 72. Richmond (received from Geelong) ROUND FIVE 73. Gold Coast 74. Melbourne 75. Greater Western Sydney (received from Carlton) 76. Sydney 77. St Kilda 78. Fremantle 79. North Melbourne 80. Carlton (received from Adelaide) 81. Port Adelaide 82. Hawthorn 83. Essendon 84. Western Bulldogs 85. Greater Western Sydney 86. Gold Coast (received from West Coast) 87. Hawthorn (received from Collingwood) 88. Richmond 89. Brisbane 90. Geelong
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At least we won something ...
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No need prolonging the agony - we all know who wins and who came second. Well done to the big fella!!! 235. Max Gawn 200. Clayton Oliver 139. James Harmes 135. Christian Salem 89. Angus Brayshaw 82. Jack Viney 65. Bayley Fritsch 61. Sam Frost 59. Christian Petracca 49. Nathan Jones 47. Jake Melksham 43. Steven May 42. Marty Hore 28. Jayden Hunt 27. Tom McDonald 24. Michael Hibberd 17. Jordan Lewis 12. Jay Lockhart 9. Jake Lever 7. Harry Petty 5. Oskar Baker Braydon Preuss 4. Josh Wagner 3. Jay Kennedy Harris Corey Wagner Sam Weideman 2. Alex Neal-Bullen 1. Kyle Dunkley Jeff Garlett Neville Jetta Oscar McDonald Billy Stretch
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It was appropriate that Melbourne was playing its last game of season 2019 in Hobart. After all, how much further south could the team go? And much as it has done in many of the previous 22 games, the side managed to extract a loss from a winning position by simply giving the ball back to the opposition time and time again. In fact, they gave it back to the opposition to the tune of 53 points from turnovers while, by way of contrast North Melbourne contributed only 17 points to their opposition in this manner. We can argue about the cattle the Demons has left after the squad was ravaged by injury but the fact remains that when the team includes the likes of Jay Kennedy Harris, Alex Neal-Bulleen, Charlie Spargo, Billy Stretch and Corey Wagner then it’s not really destined to win against any opposition, not even one that managed a total score of 14 points just a fortnight ago. The start of the game was the real form setter for the remainder, with Kennedy Harris giving away consecutive possessions to the opposition. It didn’t hurt at that point of the game, but the pattern continued with Melbourne unable to develop any true momentum as each time it managed to get its nose in front, someone would simply give it back, particularly late in the quarter. Max Gawn showed the way in the ruck, and gave Toss Goldstein a bath both in the ruck and around the ground, even topping the Melbourne score chart with three goals for the match. To amass 41 hitouts against probably the third best ruckman in the competition is a fantastic effort. Around him, there was plenty of help. Clayton Oliver was really boring in at every opportunity with 33 touches and eight tackles. Angus Brayshaw, Christian Petracca and Jack Viney with 8, 7 and 5 tackles respectively all showed their signs of intent, but then it dropped off in spectacular fashion with one each to Jayden Hunt, Jake Melksham, Neal-Bullen and Wagner. When players who are meant to be applying pressure and none is forthcoming, we see the ball ricochet from one end of the ground to the other to little or no positive effect for the team. Fortunately, Jake Lever and Sam Frost were at the other end to repel multiple North attacks, particularly Frost who did a demolition job on Ben Brown, after he kicked 10 last week, and will just miss out on winning the Coleman Medal. Up forward, Bayley Fritsch again showed plenty, with three goals and three contested marks, so providing the Demons with their only real target in front of goal. The final quarter epitomised the Demons year as the kicked 1 goal 7 behinds to 3.1 in a tight encounter. They led by up to nine points, yet simple shots for goal were missed, there were stupid turnovers and some silly decision making that conceded yet another game. People speak about the need for leadership in these situations, but it is not the leaders doing the damage when they don’t have the ball in their hands. This was a game that saw the final chapter in the career of Jordan Lewis. He has provided that desperately needed leadership and more importantly example of how an AFL player should play. Tough, hard and relentless with the ability to deliver under pressure when needed. Unfortunately, we didn’t get to see him in his prime at the Demons. After finishing in 17th spot with a miserable five wins, can the Demons head further south? Fortunately, the Suns are in a worse situation even though their list is full of early draft pick talent. We all know about the injuries, which is why the side has more than its share of sub-standard players but if we continue to gift the opposition nearly 10 goals in a game in the coming year, then further south is not only possible, it is virtually assured! If we cannot replace the composure of Jordan Lewis, then we will see opportunities thrown away again and again in the future. The club, coach and players now sit on a knife edge. We have seen 5 coaches sacked in 2019 in this brutal competition, none from the bottom two sides. Any semblance of a southerly direction on-field early next year, will see the same at Melbourne. Melbourne 4.2.26 5.4.34 11.4.70 12.11.83 North Melbourne 3.4.22 5.4.34 10.9.69 13.10.88 Goals Melbourne Fritsch Gawn 3 Melksham 2 Hunt Jones Neal-Bullen C Wagner North Melbourne Brown Garner Higgins Polec Ziebell 2 Larkey Williams Wood Best Melbourne Gawn Oliver Harmes Lewis Viney Frost North Melbourne Higgins Polec Ziebell Pittard Williams Dumont Injuries Melbourne Nil North Melbourne Macmillan (head) Reports Melbourne Nil North Melbourne Nil Umpires Deboy, Gavine, Mollison Official crowd 8,202 at Blundstone Arena
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HOW FAR SOUTH? by George on the Outer It was appropriate that Melbourne was playing its last game of season 2019 in Hobart. After all, how much further south could the team go? And much as it has done in many of the previous 22 games, the side managed to extract a loss from a winning position by simply giving the ball back to the opposition time and time again. In fact, they gave it back to the opposition to the tune of 53 points from turnovers while, by way of contrast North Melbourne contributed only 17 points to their opposition in this manner. We can argue about the cattle the Demons has left after the squad was ravaged by injury but the fact remains that when the team includes the likes of Jay Kennedy Harris, Alex Neal-Bulleen, Charlie Spargo, Billy Stretch and Corey Wagner then it’s not really destined to win against any opposition, not even one that managed a total score of 14 points just a fortnight ago. The start of the game was the real form setter for the remainder, with Kennedy Harris giving away consecutive possessions to the opposition. It didn’t hurt at that point of the game, but the pattern continued with Melbourne unable to develop any true momentum as each time it managed to get its nose in front, someone would simply give it back, particularly late in the quarter. Max Gawn showed the way in the ruck, and gave Toss Goldstein a bath both in the ruck and around the ground, even topping the Melbourne score chart with three goals for the match. To amass 41 hitouts against probably the third best ruckman in the competition is a fantastic effort. Around him, there was plenty of help. Clayton Oliver was really boring in at every opportunity with 33 touches and eight tackles. Angus Brayshaw, Christian Petracca and Jack Viney with 8, 7 and 5 tackles respectively all showed their signs of intent, but then it dropped off in spectacular fashion with one each to Jayden Hunt, Jake Melksham, Neal-Bullen and Wagner. When players who are meant to be applying pressure and none is forthcoming, we see the ball ricochet from one end of the ground to the other to little or no positive effect for the team. Fortunately, Jake Lever and Sam Frost were at the other end to repel multiple North attacks, particularly Frost who did a demolition job on Ben Brown, after he kicked 10 last week, and will just miss out on winning the Coleman Medal. Up forward, Bayley Fritsch again showed plenty, with three goals and three contested marks, so providing the Demons with their only real target in front of goal. The final quarter epitomised the Demons year as the kicked 1 goal 7 behinds to 3.1 in a tight encounter. They led by up to nine points, yet simple shots for goal were missed, there were stupid turnovers and some silly decision making that conceded yet another game. People speak about the need for leadership in these situations, but it is not the leaders doing the damage when they don’t have the ball in their hands. This was a game that saw the final chapter in the career of Jordan Lewis. He has provided that desperately needed leadership and more importantly example of how an AFL player should play. Tough, hard and relentless with the ability to deliver under pressure when needed. Unfortunately, we didn’t get to see him in his prime at the Demons. After finishing in 17th spot with a miserable five wins, can the Demons head further south? Fortunately, the Suns are in a worse situation even though their list is full of early draft pick talent. We all know about the injuries, which is why the side has more than its share of sub-standard players but if we continue to gift the opposition nearly 10 goals in a game in the coming year, then further south is not only possible, it is virtually assured! If we cannot replace the composure of Jordan Lewis, then we will see opportunities thrown away again and again in the future. The club, coach and players now sit on a knife edge. We have seen 5 coaches sacked in 2019 in this brutal competition, none from the bottom two sides. Any semblance of a southerly direction on-field early next year, will see the same at Melbourne. Melbourne 4.2.26 5.4.34 11.4.70 12.11.83 North Melbourne 3.4.22 5.4.34 10.9.69 13.10.88 Goals Melbourne Fritsch Gawn 3 Melksham 2 Hunt Jones Neal-Bullen C Wagner North Melbourne Brown Garner Higgins Polec Ziebell 2 Larkey, Williams, Wood Best Melbourne Gawn Oliver Harmes Lewis Viney Frost North Melbourne Higgins Polec Ziebell Pittard Williams Dumont Injuries Melbourne Nil North Melbourne Macmillan (head) Reports Melbourne Nil North Melbourne Nil Umpires Deboy, Gavine, Mollison Official crowd 8,202 at Blundstone Arena
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Who comes in and who goes out?
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Bring on 2020.
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Max can't be beaten and you'd expect he gets the 6s. Your votes 6,5,4,3,2,1 and thanks for your votes throughout 2019.
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GAMEDAY (the ultimate): Rd 23 vs North Melbourne
Demonland replied to Whispering_Jack's topic in Melbourne Demons
Two first round picks say goodbye. -
GAMEDAY (the ultimate): Rd 23 vs North Melbourne
Demonland replied to Whispering_Jack's topic in Melbourne Demons
Nibbler and teets on a bull have a lot in common. -
GAMEDAY (the ultimate): Rd 23 vs North Melbourne
Demonland replied to Whispering_Jack's topic in Melbourne Demons
2019 Brayshaw is a shell of 2018 Brayshaw. -
GAMEDAY (the ultimate): Rd 23 vs North Melbourne
Demonland replied to Whispering_Jack's topic in Melbourne Demons
Preuss pushed out of a ruck contest in the forward line. No free. If that was North it would have definitely been a free. -
GAMEDAY (the ultimate): Rd 23 vs North Melbourne
Demonland replied to Whispering_Jack's topic in Melbourne Demons
Lost in text form. -
GAMEDAY (the ultimate): Rd 23 vs North Melbourne
Demonland replied to Whispering_Jack's topic in Melbourne Demons
Anyone have stats on how many frees North have had in the forward 50? -
GAMEDAY (the ultimate): Rd 23 vs North Melbourne
Demonland replied to Whispering_Jack's topic in Melbourne Demons
I made similar calls for Vince to play half forward in his Twilight and if Jones is going to play on then I think HF is his best position. -
GAMEDAY (the ultimate): Rd 23 vs North Melbourne
Demonland replied to Whispering_Jack's topic in Melbourne Demons
Commentators very critical of the Dees when North get a goal but silent towards North when we get a goal. -
GAMEDAY (the ultimate): Rd 23 vs North Melbourne
Demonland replied to Whispering_Jack's topic in Melbourne Demons
He's already been announced as their permanent coach. -
GAMEDAY (the ultimate): Rd 23 vs North Melbourne
Demonland replied to Whispering_Jack's topic in Melbourne Demons
Gawny making a case for permanent forward. ? -
GAMEDAY (the ultimate): Rd 23 vs North Melbourne
Demonland replied to Whispering_Jack's topic in Melbourne Demons
No free to Fritsch for the same thing Larkey got a free for minutes before. -
GAMEDAY (the ultimate): Rd 23 vs North Melbourne
Demonland replied to Whispering_Jack's topic in Melbourne Demons
Polec gets a down field for something that Lewis didn't get a few minutes before.