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Some clubs also have a good culture with strict rules and penalties.

Smith has hit the infamous 4-6 Week mark of his injury.

Given all the other news today there is no way Petty survives this Test.

Luckily we were already braced for this because it would have been the final straw on this 2006-2017 like day.

We'll try to get to all your questions.

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We'll definitely be talking about our impotent forward line.

Imagine the Differential if these were all paid. Poor Doggies.

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Clarrie has a solid lead now … 137. Clayton Oliver 93. Christian Petracca 84. Max Gawn 65. Angus Brayshaw Steven May 52. Jack Viney 50. Ed Langdon 37. James Jordon 26. Luke Jackson 22. Jake Bowey 18. James Harmes 17. Kysaiah Pickett 15. Tom Sparrow 13. Ben Brown Bayley Fritsch 11. Alex Neal-Bullen 8. Tom McDonald 6. Sam Weideman 5. Jayden Hunt Jake Lever Harry Petty Charlie Spargo 3. Joel Smith 1. Christian Salem

Look at this team! How could they have possibly lost? MELBOURNE B: M Hibberd 14 S. May 1 J. Lever 8 HB: J. Hunt 29 H. Petty 35 C. Salem 3 C: A. Brayshaw 10 C. Petracca 5 J. Jordon 23 HF: J. Harmes 4 T. McDonald 25 A. Neal-Bullen 30 F: C. Spargo 9 S. Weideman 26 B. Fritsch 31 Foll: M. Gawn 11 C. Oliver 13 K. Pickett 36 I/C: L Jackson 6 E Langdon 15 T Rivers 24 T Sparrow 32 Sub: K Chandler 37 Emerg: O. Baker 33 M. Brown 38 J Melksham 18 IN: K. Chandler E. Langdon OUT: O. Baker (omitted) J. Melksham (omitted) COLLINGWOOD B: J. Noble 9 J. Roughead 23 B. Maynard 37 HB: I. Quaynor 3 D. Moore 30 C. Mayne 16 C: W. Hoskin-Elliott 32 S. Sidebottom 22 C. Poulter 27 HF: N. Murphy 28 D. Cameron 14 T. Bianco 8 F: J. De Goey 2 B. Mihocek 41 J. Elliott 5 Foll: M. Lynch 15 S. Pendlebury 10 J. Crisp 25 IC: J. Daicos 7 J. Madgen 44 B. McCreery 31 J. Thomas 24 Sub: J. Rantall 1 Emerg: C. Brown 17 M. Cox 46 T. Wilson 12 IN: B. McCreery C. Mayne OUT: C. Brown (omitted) B. Sier (jaw)