[Mod edit language: You can say the same thing without the language issues. Although your main points are spot on. Rhino]

Goodnight and [edit] im sorry i cant use non swear words to explain my anger.

Travis Johnstone, Jeff White and Byron Pickett... 3 senior players who should hang their heads in shame.

Pickett can't bloody run. FFS, he is an elite athlete with zero fitness.

White was given a bath in the ruck by two newbies, and had no influence around the ground.

As for TJ, if he stopped pointing and started doing the work himself, he might become the elite player that he's capable of being.

On the bright side, Jones, Dunn, Sylvia, McLean, Newton and Bate just kept going and going and going. It won't always be this way...

Brock McLean was not good again tonight.

You are right about Pickett and TJ is a wasteful lazy footballer who plays like a millionaire with no money.

Sterling stuff in the second half by the young guys, Dogga Brown and McDonald!

We were insipid in the first half with few exceptions.

Brock McLean was not good again tonight.

You are right about Pickett and TJ is a wasteful lazy footballer who plays like a millionaire with no money.

Sterling stuff in the second half by the young guys, Dogga Brown and McDonald!

We were insipid in the first half with few exceptions.

TJ is a fantastic player with the best disposal at our club. critisism is unwarranted, he played well tonight. did really really well tonight

poor post re: Johnstone RR

Travis Johnstone, Jeff White and Byron Pickett... 3 senior players who should hang their heads in shame.

Pickett can't bloody run. FFS, he is an elite athlete with zero fitness.

White was given a bath in the ruck by two newbies, and had no influence around the ground.

As for TJ, if he stopped pointing and started doing the work himself, he might become the elite player that he's capable of being.

On the bright side, Jones, Dunn, Sylvia, McLean, Newton and Bate just kept going and going and going. It won't always be this way...

what about your boyfriend brock mclean? got caught twice in the last quarter trying to run through dale thomas.. was quite embarassing actually. Tj was good and i thought pickett was alrite actually.

You have got to be joking!

TJ did nothing in the first half. LAZY, LAZY, LAZY!

I'm a big fan and I've stood up for him for as long as I can remember, but he just did not do enough tonight. Won't put himself in the contest at all.

As for Pickett, please, he did nothing and was given WOG votes by MMM. His fitness, or lack thereof, is a slap in the face to the MFC.

DD36, when Brock McLean has 150+ games under his belt and 10+ years experience, we can start comparing performances.

DD36, when Brock McLean has 150+ games under his belt and 10+ years experience, we can start comparing performances.

How about we compare McLean with Jones? <_<

I agree with you on TJ and Pickett. I cant believe we got so close with those two playing.

I thought TJ with Jones were the only midfielders that played well in the first half, when he came we looked a better side. Why would you start Brock, Sylvia and TJ on the bench, our two best midfielders and a hard footballer, then have Jamar in a forward pocket, one thing is for sure Riley will not coach us next year, he is to much like ND

Sorry about the post but in nicer terms, we are weak mentally, weak pyshically and im sick of it, the rubbish they threw up in the first half was so insipid that not one of them should be able to look neitz in the eye, they failed him, not a whimper in the first half.

We need someone to do a geelong and tell some home truths to our players and coaches, we have settled for mediocracy too long and until someone comes through the club and changes this forget about ever seeing a flag.

At the end of round 22 i hope all coaches are gone, they are useless, all of them. Drdrake is right we still have ND as coach as they have no ideas of their own.

I am still furious that not one player really stood up in the first half or took the game on, the only 2 that sort of did was junior and jones. jones does need to realise he can't break tackles very well t this level and just to put boot to the ball.

White and Jamar were terrible, we got smashed in the ruck by 2 duds, why PJ is not playing is a disgrace, jamar has nothing on him. you have had 50 games, see ya mate.

Sorry about the post but in nicer terms, we are weak mentally, weak pyshically and im sick of it, the rubbish they threw up in the first half was so insipid that not one of them should be able to look neitz in the eye, they failed him, not a whimper in the first half.

We need someone to do a geelong and tell some home truths to our players and coaches, we have settled for mediocracy too long and until someone comes through the club and changes this forget about ever seeing a flag.

At the end of round 22 i hope all coaches are gone, they are useless, all of them. Drdrake is right we still have ND as coach as they have no ideas of their own.

I am still furious that not one player really stood up in the first half or took the game on, the only 2 that sort of did was junior and jones. jones does need to realise he can't break tackles very well t this level and just to put boot to the ball.

White and Jamar were terrible, we got smashed in the ruck by 2 duds, why PJ is not playing is a disgrace, jamar has nothing on him. you have had 50 games, see ya mate.

Great work, Condemned! A shocking first half, papered over by a tired performance by the Pies in the 2nd half. The anti-Johnstone faction that operate here need to realise that it was his ability to use the ball that kept us vaguely in the game in the first half, and then got us right into it in the second half. I can't believe the way some posters treat TJ in comparison to some others who seem to get off lightly.

Also, a very disappointing crowd. Only 46,000 for one of the more important moments in our clubs history. The sooner Sheedy arrives to get this place moving again the better!

I'm still seething even now.

TJ is a fantastic player with the best disposal at our club. critisism is unwarranted, he played well tonight. did really really well tonight

Oh dear.

Great work, Condemned! A shocking first half, papered over by a tired performance by the Pies in the 2nd half. The anti-Johnstone faction that operate here need to realise that it was his ability to use the ball that kept us vaguely in the game in the first half, and then got us right into it in the second half. I can't believe the way some posters treat TJ in comparison to some others who seem to get off lightly.

Also, a very disappointing crowd. Only 46,000 for one of the more important moments in our clubs history. The sooner Sheedy arrives to get this place moving again the better!

Surely this figure CAN'T be true!!!!?

I seem to remember Eddie McQuire telling me that EVERYONE wants to play Colling#$% at the MCG because they ALWAYS turn out in droves.

Wasn't it THEIR home game?

As far as the first half last night goes............what we lacked was players prepared to do THE TEAM THINGS. Although I give an exception to Jones and Holland.

If I was coach I would have benched McLean for the third quarter. He was PATHETIC in the first half. At one point when Jones had one centre clearance he simple ran along side him calling for the ball and waiting for the handpass instead of shepherding for Jones. Consequently Jones got caught with the ball. In that situation I would only forgive TJ, Flash and Green because they would use the ball better.

Brock probably isn't completely to blame though; the crap game plan that has been evident from the very first pre-season game year IS; and those responsible.

Hopefully those responsible have only THREE weeks left living on our hard earned membership dollars.

Go Dees - Onward and Upward

ok heres my 2 cents worth.

1. Jones put in 100% effort for 100 % of game. He was committed throughout and is a credit to himself and his teammates. Granted he made a few judgement errors but he was also given frees against on several occassions for holding the ball with absolutely NO prior opportunity. He was caught legit once or maybe twice.

2. Jmac is an outstanding player with great skills and can read the play better than any other dee player. He knows his skill limits and plays within them. Magnificent yet again

3. TJ was brilliant- in spurts. But I feel that is how he will always be. Skills are silky. Needs big pre-season and more direction from coaches I feel (may be wrong)

4. Injuries suck. Seeing Holland go down early'ish then Bell was both typical of our season and made me feel sick. Sick of our shizenhousen luck this year.

5. Very proud of the boys after Belly went off. They seemed to grow more determined and added some much needed aggression. Pity is wasnt there from the outset.

6. Lastly but most importantly. Realised just how much Neita means to me. Got soooo excited seeing him run onto field thru the kids guard of honor. When he didnt shake his oppositions hand that was extended to him (maxwell-i forget???) was stoked to see his obvious intent. and with each goal he kicked or even got near the ball i yelled and stood up and basically went off. btw im here in tassie not at the game. Love ya Neitz. True champon