36 minutes ago, Go Ds said:

only a few weeks earlier we had casually been discussing the less painful ways to die , including whether someone could die of a heart attack in their sleep and never know what hit them.

Firstly, thanks for your gentle and understanding/empathetic take on my loss and how it related to Louiza’s and my discussions in her final days - and yes, I attended her funeral at the Greek Orthodox Church in Newton here in Sydney, and it was absolutely heartbreaking as those closest to her mourned openly and with incredibly raw emotion; I don’t know if this is the right descriptor, but the whole experience was cathartic in the extreme… the minister taking the ‘ceremony’ had similar thoughts to us and expressed them unapologetically to the gathered mourners who took his words in the way he intended, approvingly.

Not wanting to turn this into a political debate, but In these Trumpian times, empathy seems to be something that has taken a back seat, so it’s always refreshing to encounter the likes of your good self and others on this site!

Now, onto the above quoted sentence from your response. Firstly, I am so sorry for your loss, so please accept my sincerest condolences; the loss of a parent is always devastating as we tend to consider them to be somewhat immortal, and I suppose they are, so please take heart in the fact that she will always live on in your heart and soul… a parent never really leaves.

In yet another odd coincidence, I was just talking to a friend of mine on Friday (the drummer from my band), whose mother-in-law had been suffering for a relatively short time, with a very serious and ultimately extremely painful form of cancer (pancreatic). They were concerned that she might suffer terribly and were trying to come to terms with that possibility, but then just last week and out of nowhere, as she was getting up from the sofa, she suffered a heart attack and, according to the doctor, was gone before she hit the ground… no time to suffer at all. Even the worst things in life can have the oddest of upsides.

Take care please.

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4 hours ago, JTR said:

Is this not just a myth created by Kane Cornes and repeated ad nauseum until it became accepted fact?

I've yet to see or hear anything about this supposed trade offer that doesn't eventually tie back to the original Cornes 'scoop'

Unsure - however it doesn’t change that I’d still take a packet of smiths chips over Petty.