Collingwood v Melbourne @ Victoria Park 1968

[Kelvin Templeton 0]

It seems a good topical time to ask this question just after the Queens Birthday game.

A bloke I work with has told me about the day he went with his policeman father to Victoria Park for a Collingwood v Melbourne game when he was a child.

His reminisces are that Melbourne won the game and how at the end of the match, the Collingwood crowd hurled bottles at their defeated players as they came off the field.

I asked him what year, it was however he couldn't immediately pinpoint it. So I asked whether it was 1976 and he thought that it wasn't as it would have happened earlier. So therefore I hopped onto the internet and went into the AFL Tables website http://www.aflstats.tk and searched around and the previous Melbourne triumph at Victoria Park was in 1968.

He agreed with 1968 and said "Yes that must have been the year that it happened" The scores were -

Round 8- Saturday 08th June 1968

Collingwood 11.13.79

Melbourne 13.7.85

So round 8 on June 8 of 68

So would anyone here remember this game? If so were you there and also did you see the Collingwood fans throwing bottles at their own players(or throwing them at anyone or anything?)

[Gorgoroth 13,215]

i know nothing of it but my dads greatest memory is the 58 GF and dropping cans on the leaving pies fans from the olympic stand

[demonfanjezza 1]

That would have been very funny to see both incidents

[Jumping Jack Clennett 1,825]

i know nothing of it but my dads greatest memory is the 58 GF and dropping cans on the leaving pies fans from the olympic stand

Sounds like your Dad barracked for Collingwood, if that's his greatest memory. It was the worst day of my life.

[Gorgoroth 13,215]

ooops, i was meant to write 59

[Jumping Jack Clennett 1,825]

ooops, i was meant to write 59

That was Essendon, but they deserve it nearly as much!

[Gorgoroth 13,215]

ill have to ask him, i cant remember, i thought it was 58 but ill ask him and find out, bah im too tired to think

[WonnaJurah 5]

why is it you can get dvds of the 1961 premiership of the hawks ,but no 1964 premiership of the dees

it justs confuses me

[bush demon 2,207]

It seems a good topical time to ask this question just after the Queens Birthday game.

A bloke I work with has told me about the day he went with his policeman father to Victoria Park for a Collingwood v Melbourne game when he was a child.

His reminisces are that Melbourne won the game and how at the end of the match, the Collingwood crowd hurled bottles at their defeated players as they came off the field.

I asked him what year, it was however he couldn't immediately pinpoint it. So I asked whether it was 1976 and he thought that it wasn't as it would have happened earlier. So therefore I hopped onto the internet and went into the AFL Tables website http://www.aflstats.tk and searched around and the previous Melbourne triumph at Victoria Park was in 1968.

He agreed with 1968 and said "Yes that must have been the year that it happened" The scores were -

Round 8- Saturday 08th June 1968

Collingwood 11.13.79

Melbourne 13.7.85

So round 8 on June 8 of 68

So would anyone here remember this game? If so were you there and also did you see the Collingwood fans throwing bottles at their own players(or throwing them at anyone or anything?)

If barry vagg played a blinder then i remember it. i was listening on my blue tranny in the front yard at springvale. a late goal i think by vagg sealed it.

[Kelvin Templeton 0]

why is it you can get dvds of the 1961 premiership of the hawks ,but no 1964 premiership of the dees

it justs confuses me

I bet Name A Game wish that the 1961 Grand Final never existed, because if that was the case, then they wouldn't receive such a massive volume of correspondence from people requesting the 1962, 1963 and 1964 Grand Finals. People would just assume that they started in 1966 (until the "lost" Grand Final of 1965) was found.

A mate of mine- an Essendon fan(he is older than I am) claims that he saw as a young lad, either the last quarter or the full game of the 1964 Grand Final that Saturday night back then on either the old Channel 0 or Channel 9? The tape of the 1964 Grand Final is apparently around somewhere, waiting to see the light of day.

The 1961 Grand Final is just a small mercy for Footscray fans- all 7 goals in black and white. Better than nothing and I have both the video and dvd of it, but North Melbourne, Richmond, Carlton and Essendon, Hawthorn, Collingwood and Geelong fans don't know how lucky they are when it comes to seeing their team in action on Grand Final Day.

In my previous life I must have been a horrible supervisor when working on the construction of the Pyramids. My retribution as karma was to be a Footscray supporter.

You may not have won a flag in my lifetime, like St Kilda and Geelong, but at least you can say that you made it in 1988 and 2000. My mob can't even make the Grand Final of that two bit Ansett, Wizard, NAB or whatever they call it Cup let alone the fair dinkum Grand Final.

[WonnaJurah 5]

thats true , but i think they could go all the way this year

just quietly

send my 3rd cousin out of the game as a winner

[bush demon 2,207]

I bet Name A Game wish that the 1961 Grand Final never existed, because if that was the case, then they wouldn't receive such a massive volume of correspondence from people requesting the 1962, 1963 and 1964 Grand Finals. People would just assume that they started in 1966 (until the "lost" Grand Final of 1965) was found.

A mate of mine- an Essendon fan(he is older than I am) claims that he saw as a young lad, either the last quarter or the full game of the 1964 Grand Final that Saturday night back then on either the old Channel 0 or Channel 9? The tape of the 1964 Grand Final is apparently around somewhere, waiting to see the light of day.

The 1961 Grand Final is just a small mercy for Footscray fans- all 7 goals in black and white. Better than nothing and I have both the video and dvd of it, but North Melbourne, Richmond, Carlton and Essendon, Hawthorn, Collingwood and Geelong fans don't know how lucky they are when it comes to seeing their team in action on Grand Final Day.

In my previous life I must have been a horrible supervisor when working on the construction of the Pyramids. My retribution as karma was to be a Footscray supporter.

You may not have won a flag in my lifetime, like St Kilda and Geelong, but at least you can say that you made it in 1988 and 2000. My mob can't even make the Grand Final of that two bit Ansett, Wizard, NAB or whatever they call it Cup let alone the fair dinkum Grand Final.

I too am a 64 tv replay video tragic. The game was replayed on at least two television stations maybe even three: Channels 2, 7 and 9. I looked up old newspapers and the replay was shown. highlights of the game were again shown on world of sport the next day. the surviving footage itself - barassi's fumble, dixon's mark, crompton's goal, tuddy's torp and gabbo's gander only came to light i believe in the last few years with Steve Phillips sportscom group researching and finding 'lost' footage which surfaced on the demon red and blue video. it would be a good thing to make representations to these people to go looking again so we can have something to treasure for the 150th anniversary next year. i can remember highlights of the '64 second semi being shown on world of sport when melbourne poleaxed collingwood by 89 points.

[bush demon 2,207]

I too am a 64 tv replay video tragic. The game was replayed on at least two television stations maybe even three: Channels 2, 7 and 9. I looked up old newspapers and the replay was shown. highlights of the game were again shown on world of sport the next day. the surviving footage itself - barassi's fumble, dixon's mark, crompton's goal, tuddy's torp and gabbo's gander only came to light i believe in the last few years with Steve Phillips sportscom group researching and finding 'lost' footage which surfaced on the demon red and blue video. it would be a good thing to make representations to these people to go looking again so we can have something to treasure for the 150th anniversary next year. i can remember highlights of the '64 second semi being shown on world of sport when melbourne poleaxed collingwood by 89 points.

the 60, 61, 62 and 63 grandfinals are available on video.

[Kelvin Templeton 0]

the 60, 61, 62 and 63 grandfinals are available on video.

Really! Where can you get them from? Although I don't require 1961 as I already have that on both video and dvd. Then again if 1961 should now be shown in colour- well I will buy it again.

The 1963 Grand Final is evidently the equally most requested video / dvd for the Name A Game staff with the 1964 Grand Final the other one.

Its a wonder that they don't or can't colourise some of these old black and white Grand Finals(well and any other game)

I have seen colour highlights of the 1966,1967 and 1972 Grand Finals as well as some from before then. Its a wonder they can't cut and paste the colour action to the Butch Gale and Mike Williamson tapes.

In the Sensational Seventies Video/dvd, they present some highlights of the 1974 Grand Final. It is in black and white as you would expect with colour television not coming into place in Australia until 1975. Yet some years later, the 1974 Richmond v North Melbourne Grand Final is now always shown in full colour despite it still being a few months before colour television was implemented.

[demonfanjezza 1]

I think i seen a little bit of footage of the 64 grand final in a dvd called i think 'history of melbourne sport' or something to that effect. But im not completely sure

[deanox 10,070]

i thought i read a rumour that the tape was destroyed on purpose when the broadcast rights changed hands at one point? im not sure details though...can anyone shed light?

[WonnaJurah 5]

theres highlights on a few dvds ive seen like the history of mfc and magic moments

id love to see the video footage of adams vs healey in the grand final, that would be something

[deanox 10,070]

found this in the archives:

1964 Grand Final - Demonland

[Kelvin Templeton 0]

i thought i read a rumour that the tape was destroyed on purpose when the broadcast rights changed hands at one point? im not sure details though...can anyone shed light?

I heard a story from a bloke that a lot of old football footage was deliberately destroyed from the order of a former President of an AFL Club who is now deceased.

Now there is no concrete basis to that story, it is only what this mate of a mate told me one night. It could be a garbage story, but I know that this bloke telling me this tale isn't a liar or a big noter. He was a big collector of old rare football videos and so I imagine he had some merit to be taken seriously.

As for the AFL Club President- well it wasn't Peter Gordon, Joe Gutnick or Ian Ridley. Well those three are still alive so that rules them out. It wasn't Sir Billy Snedden or Graham Huggins either so I am not speaking ill of the dead in those two cases.

[bush demon 2,207]

I heard a story from a bloke that a lot of old football footage was deliberately destroyed from the order of a former President of an AFL Club who is now deceased.

Now there is no concrete basis to that story, it is only what this mate of a mate told me one night. It could be a garbage story, but I know that this bloke telling me this tale isn't a liar or a big noter. He was a big collector of old rare football videos and so I imagine he had some merit to be taken seriously.

As for the AFL Club President- well it wasn't Peter Gordon, Joe Gutnick or Ian Ridley. Well those three are still alive so that rules them out. It wasn't Sir Billy Snedden or Graham Huggins either so I am not speaking ill of the dead in those two cases.

Go to one of the AFL sports shops and ask for the Great GRand finals of the 60's DVD's. It has got every grand final. the '64 grand final is shot from a long range and is overdubbed with average commentary. It is a movie reel, not tv video. the '63 grand final shows geelong chopping up hawthorn in the 3rd quarter with some beautiful passages of play. the '61 grand final appears to have been filmed directly off a tv screen. this was a technique used at that time to overcome the high cost of video footage. i can't remember the technical name they give it. the '60 grand final betw. melbourne v collingwood is live tv coverage. unfortunately the mcg is so sodden that no meaningful passages of play can occur! you get to see laurie mithen do some beautiful pick ups, and ron barassi mark right on the siren and miss from only 25 yards out. len mann rucks fantastically with his big hook arm continually winning the clearances. reminded me of the brisbane big men (clark keating?) in recent gf's. rare tv highlights of the '58 grandfinal show a beaten melbourne making a belated comeback in the dying minutes with some precision passing. the 56-59 gf's all went live to air and were not recorded for posterity (otherthan the footage mentioned). fascinating to listen to mike williamson in the early grand finals ('61 i think) with a mellow, laidback tone. by '66 (like the beatles) he has gone over the top, putting the wrongend of the cigarette in his mouth etc having heartattacks on air etc... unfortunately most of these games are heavily edited and you don't get to see how exciting football was in those days. if onlly we could see the '64 grnad final presented in the way the exciting 66 and 67 grnad finals were.

i also heard the destroyed gf's rumour off an afl person. i rang up once and spoke to *** ********** who told me that a ******* **** executive deliberately burnt tapes when that channel lost the rights.