Elijah Tsatas

[Future of Aussie Rules 18]

15 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

Toumpas didn't work out so no other player of Greek heritage will?   

Never mind, some of your best friends are Greek, right?

And I love them all, but I wouldn't draft them, even if they were talented enough. Too tempremental.

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21 minutes ago, Future of Aussie Rules said:

And I love them all, but I wouldn't draft them, even if they were talented enough. Too tempremental.

Can I get your thoughts on the Sudanese, Lebanese, Macedonians and Indigenous players?

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2 hours ago, Future of Aussie Rules said:

And I love them all, but I wouldn't draft them, even if they were talented enough. Too tempremental.

Your effort at stereotyping one group of people without thinking too hard about it is poor. In the first place, there have been plenty of footballers of Greek origin, starting with the Pannamopoulos (Pannam) family which included Collingwood greats like Lou and Ron Richards.

There's also a connection between Greeks and a large number of people of Macedonian heritage (some say there's no difference but I won't get into that debate) so we can include the Daicos family. Peter Daicos was included in the Greek Team of the Century compiled by AFL historian Col Hutchinson and I didn't see any temperament issues with young Nick this year but I'm now aware that you wouldn't draft someone like him. Or ... Ang Christou, Luke Beveridge, Josh Daicos, Nick Daicos, Peter Daicos, Andrew Demetriou, Josh Francou, Gary Frangalas, John Georgiades, John Georgiou, Con Gorozidis, Athas Hrysoulakis, Patrick Karnezis, Paul Koulouriotis, Spiro Kourkoumelis, Anthony Koutoufides, George Lakes, Angelo Lekkas, Stephen Malaxos, Spiro Malakellis, Tony Malakellis, Alex Marcou, Daniel Metropolis, Russell Morris, Albert Pannam, Alby Pannam, Charlie Pannam (born 1874), Charlie Pannam (born 1897), Matthew Panos, Chris Pavlou, Phil Poursanidis, Lou Richards, Ron Richards, John Rombotis, Jimmy Toumpas, Jason Traianidis, Zeno Tzatzaris, Vasil Varlamos and David Zaharakis.

I don't have the data regarding the numbers of Italian and Greek footballers but I wonder about your argument about cultural differences too. I once was involved in a discussion with a Greek friend who put it down to the strength of soccer in our Greek communities and my observations anecdotally of the strength of the predominantly Greek club South Melbourne Hellas in junior ranks certainly bears this out. They've produced plenty of good Australian soccer players as well. 

All in all, I have to agree that ruling out potential recruits by reason of a perception about their temperament based on race or nationality is not just stupid, but also offensive and not welcome on this board. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Dee Zephyr said:

I have a 16 year career on Demonland and still going. 🙂

Jason Taylor has taken FOAR's advice, and put a line through your name as a potential draftee. 

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