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6 Tracc (Brunette Kouta)

5 Bowey (Keith Greig, as per other poster, great call)

4 Dogga (McKernan-remember his breakout games for North)

3 Oliver (Best Redhead ever to play the game)

2 ANB (Langdon is not the only supreme runner we have)

1 Brayshaw (is it too late for him to be fullback for the Wallabies?)

Stiff May

6. Petracca

5. Bowey

4. Oliver

3. Jackson

2. Brayshaw

1. Neal-Bullen

Special comment: The value of Neal-Bullen's running power was never more obvious than in the last quarter. Everyone else seemed exhausted (or 'gassed' as the commentary team kept saying because they left their thesaurus at home) but he was still running as strong as ever. And now he's added better foot skills overall so brings more players into the game.

 
On 3/26/2022 at 11:30 PM, Jaded No More said:

Jackson and Bowey were superb, but you can’t not give Trac the 6 votes. 
40 touches, 8 score involvements and 14 inside 50s is absolutely elite. His disposal wasn’t as good as usual but he absolutely won that game for us. 
 

They are great stats (focussing on attacking stats) and Truck played a great game. But as a defender I reckon Bowey notched up some elite numbers, particularly the intercepts.

34 touches (@79%DE), 572 m gained, 16 intercept possessions, 7 rebounds from D50, 9 marks, from only 72% TOG(4th lowest for the dees)

Just as a comparison, Truck had 21 effective disposals (40 @53%) vs Boweys 27 (34 @79%).

11 hours ago, deanox said:

They are great stats (focussing on attacking stats) and Truck played a great game. But as a defender I reckon Bowey notched up some elite numbers, particularly the intercepts.

34 touches (@79%DE), 572 m gained, 16 intercept possessions, 7 rebounds from D50, 9 marks, from only 72% TOG(4th lowest for the dees)

Just as a comparison, Truck had 21 effective disposals (40 @53%) vs Boweys 27 (34 @79%).

I would suggest that the disposal efficiency stat is not particularly relevant unless you're comparing defender v defender, forward v forward, or midfielder v midfielder. And even then, it depends a lot on whether the role of the player is inside or outside mid, the distributing defender (a la Salem and Bowey last week), etc. I think you'll find defenders generally have a higher disposal efficiency than anyone else, possibly because from where they are disposing of the ball the ground is opening up thereby creating more space. Compare this with a midfielder kicking into the forward line where the circular ground is narrowing and therefore with less room for error and a greater concentration of players.


1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I would suggest that the disposal efficiency stat is not particularly relevant unless you're comparing defender v defender, forward v forward, or midfielder v midfielder. And even then, it depends a lot on whether the role of the player is inside or outside mid, the distributing defender (a la Salem and Bowey last week), etc. I think you'll find defenders generally have a higher disposal efficiency than anyone else, possibly because from where they are disposing of the ball the ground is opening up thereby creating more space. Compare this with a midfielder kicking into the forward line where the circular ground is narrowing and therefore with less room for error and a greater concentration of players.

Oh absolutely agree. That's what I was trying to convey with "just a comparison" ie that it doesn't mean much but is something to note. On second read I definitely wasn't clear.

 

From memory an effective disposal includes a handball that is received, a short kick that is retained, or long Koch that goes to a 50/50 contrast or better ( based on numbers at the contest, not positioning).

So I think the issue is that defenders tend to either give to the short safe option or lock as long as possible down the lines, whereas midfielders typical to short handball or long kick inside 50. Given loose players are normally in the D50 not the on the wing, it stands that a defenders long kick to the wing is more likely to get classified as effective than a midfielders long kick to a tall forward.

Given they won't give us proper stats (a break down of different types of disposals and their retention %, and the reasons for losing possession ie didn't carry, fumble, spoil/pressure, intercept) perhaps there is a combo stat considering DE%, disposal type (kick v handball) and metres gained that might give a more accurate comparison? The number of i50 and rebound from D50s might be relevant too.

Although this is starting to sound like some of those rubbish metrics champion data give us on the tv broadcast isn't it?

 

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