38 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

Weighted Averages up to and including Rnd 16, 2020

Player	2020 Weighted Score	2020 Rank	2019 Weighted Score	% Change vs 2019	% Change vs 2019 w/ 20% time adjusted	2019 Rank	Change in Rank vs 2019
Clayton Oliver	4.093	1	4.880	-16.13	4.84	1	0
Christian Petracca	3.608	2	2.843	26.91	58.64	9	7
Max Gawn #	3.027	3	3.437	-11.93	10.09	4	1
Jack Viney	2.952	4	3.258	-9.39	13.26	5	1
Steven May	2.752	5	2.618	5.12	31.40	14	9
Ed Langdon	2.740	6	-	-	-	-	-
Christian Salem	2.693	7	3.658	-26.38	-7.98	3	-4
Angus Brayshaw	2.589	8	3.131	-17.31	3.36	6	-2
James Harmes	2.262	9	4.039	-44.00	-30.00	2	-7
Jake Lever	2.248	10	2.519	-10.76	11.55	16	6
Michael Hibberd	2.244	11	2.339	-4.06	19.92	19	8
Tom Sparrow	2.150	12	1.275	68.63	110.78	37	25
Adam Tomlinson #	1.932	13	-	-	-	-	-
Trent Rivers	1.904	14	-	-	-	-	-
Harley Bennell	1.850	15	-	-	-	-	-
Bayley Fritsch	1.720	16	2.809	-38.77	-23.46	10	-6
Oscar McDonald #	1.682	17	1.956	-14.01	7.49	26	9
Tom McDonald #	1.675	18	2.297	-27.08	-8.85	20	2
Jay Lockhart	1.650	19	1.819	-9.29	13.39	30	11
Oskar Baker *	1.650	19	1.714	-3.73	20.33	29	10
Alex N-Bullen	1.640	21	2.120	-22.64	-3.30	22	1
Nathan Jones	1.638	22	2.907	-43.65	-29.57	7	-15
Mitchell Hannan	1.506	23	1.433	5.09	31.37	36	13
Jake Melksham	1.488	24	2.181	-31.77	-14.72	21	-3
Aaron Vandenburg	1.485	25	-	-	-	-	-
Luke Jackson #	1.463	26	-	-	-	-	-
Sam Weideman	1.416	27	1.895	-25.28	-6.60	27	0
Charlie Spargo	1.375	28	1.513	-9.12	13.60	35	7
Neville Jetta	1.355	29	2.264	-40.15	-25.19	18	-11
Braydon Preuss #	1.325	30	1.643	-19.35	0.81	33	3
Kysaiah Pickett	1.198	31	-	-	-	-	-
Joel Smith	1.085	32	-	-	-	-	-
Mitchell Brown	1.067	33	-	-	-	-	-
Toby Bedford	0.925	34	-	-	-	-	-
Jayden Hunt	0.844	35	2.092	-59.66	-49.57	23	-12
Average Team Score - Top 22	50.699		59.623	-14.97	6.29

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

* One match only, not an average

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

Crazy amount of work to create this from week to week.  You deserve a medal!  

%change vs 2019....am i correct to assume from these stats that 4 players have improved and the rest have gone backwards?

Really felt development has been an issue but this paints even more of the picture!

Hannan has improved marginally.  Sparrow barely played in 2019 so presume his increase is expected.  Steven May a slight increase.  Petracca improved dramatically.   We had such a crappy year in 2019 and we have 4 players in total to improve on that.  

Ahhh actually just saw the % change with -20% time adjustment.  This actually paints another picture.  Most have improved from last year which feels marginal but more true.  2019 was awful!  10 senior players have got worse....Salem, Harmes, Fritch, T Mac, ANB, Jones, Melksham, Weideman, Jetta and Hunt.  What is going on with this lot haha?!

Edited September 8, 20204 yr by NeveroddoreveN

5 hours ago, NeveroddoreveN said:

Crazy amount of work to create this from week to week.  You deserve a medal!  

%change vs 2019....am i correct to assume from these stats that 4 players have improved and the rest have gone backwards?

Really felt development has been an issue but this paints even more of the picture!

Hannan has improved marginally.  Sparrow barely played in 2019 so presume his increase is expected.  Steven May a slight increase.  Petracca improved dramatically.   We had such a crappy year in 2019 and we have 4 players in total to improve on that.  

Ahhh actually just saw the % change with -20% time adjustment.  This actually paints another picture.  Most have improved from last year which feels marginal but more true.  2019 was awful!  10 senior players have got worse....Salem, Harmes, Fritch, T Mac, ANB, Jones, Melksham, Weideman, Jetta and Hunt.  What is going on with this lot haha?!

More enjoyable doing this if we were showing some sort of cohesion and purpose NVROD.

Sadly i think the hap hazard performances might be the result of systemic failure within the FD & morale of the playing group in general.  I'm a true believer in body language and from what i'm witnessing in the box, on the bench and from the game day footage inside the rooms, my gut feel tells me things are not going well inside the four walls of late.

The wheels have well and truly fallen off.

Edited September 8, 20204 yr by Rusty Nails

Rnd 17, 2020 GABBA - GWS vs Demons

Very rare for a genuine defender to top these weighted stats tables.  Let alone two!  Maybe Salem playing a part time role off HB on occasions in 2019 but not sure whether he actually did or not.

May's 11th top five finish for the season.  What a year he's having.  Old Man rolls in at No.2 for an early break out game.  Throw in Lever and that's three defenders in the top five.  Our defence is the bomb this season.  And then there's that forward line.  Gadzooks.  Spargo about the only good thing.  Although Mitch may have played an extra spare dropping back at times, and at least one ruck contest for a hit out!  Definitely his best game at the MFC so far IMV.

Pickett also showing something more of what were hoping we were in for with a top 5 finish.  Just needs to hit the scoreboard a few more times with the chances he's getting to put the icing on the cake.  I suspect he is a pre-season or two away from this, needing to build a hardened bod to get the extra distance and steady over that step or two around corners etc.

Top five for meters gained....

1.  May with 467   2.  Ed 462   3. Salem 369   4. Baker 334   5. Pickett 319  

Happy to get the win but not getting too excited in terms of improvement statistically anyway.  Team score being approx 3% below the 2019 season average and 14% down on 2018.

Player	Score	Rank
Steven May	4.250	1
Trent Rivers	3.450	2
Christian Salem	3.175	3
Jake Lever	3.100	4
Kysaiah Pickett	2.925	5
Christian Petracca	2.900	6
Clayton Oliver	2.750	7
Oskar Baker	2.275	8
Charlie Spargo	2.200	9
Mitchell Brown #	2.175	10
Aaron Vandenberg	1.975	11
Max Gawn #	1.975	11
Adam Tomlinson	1.800	13
Bayley Fritsch	1.650	14
Neville Jetta	1.650	14
Alex N-Bullen	1.500	16
Ed Langdon	1.450	17
Jack Viney	1.350	18
Joel Smith	1.250	19
Jayden Hunt	0.875	20
Jake Melksham	0.750	21
Sam Weideman	0.625	22
Team Score	46.050
Top 6	19.800
Bottom 6	6.300

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

Edited September 12, 20204 yr by Rusty Nails

9 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

Rnd 17, 2020 GABBA - GWS vs Demons

Very rare for a genuine defender to top these weighted stats tables.  Let alone two!  Maybe Salem playing a part time role off HB on occasions in 2019 but not sure whether he actually did or not.

May's 11th top five finish for the season.  What a year he's having.  Old Man rolls in at No.2 for an early break out game.  Throw in Lever and that's three defenders in the top five.  Our defence is the bomb this season.  And then there's that forward line.  Gadzooks.  Spargo about the only good thing.  Although Mitch may have played an extra spare dropping back at times, and at least one ruck contest for a hit out!  Definitely his best game at the MFC so far IMV.

Pickett also showing something more of what were hoping we were in for with a top 5 finish.  Just needs to hit the scoreboard a few more times with the chances he's getting to put the icing on the cake.  I suspect he is a pre-season or two away from this, needing to build a hardened bod to get the extra distance and steady over that step or two around corners etc.

Top five for meters gained....

1.  May with 467   2.  Ed 462   3. Salem 369   4. Baker 334   5. Pickett 319  

Happy to get the win but not getting too excited in terms of improvement statistically anyway.  Team score being approx 3% below the 2019 season average and 14% down on 2018.

Player	Score	Rank
Steven May	4.250	1
Trent Rivers	3.450	2
Christian Salem	3.175	3
Jake Lever	3.100	4
Kysaiah Pickett	2.925	5
Christian Petracca	2.900	6
Clayton Oliver	2.750	7
Oskar Baker	2.275	8
Charlie Spargo	2.200	9
Mitchell Brown #	2.175	10
Aaron Vandenberg	1.975	11
Max Gawn #	1.975	11
Adam Tomlinson	1.800	13
Bayley Fritsch	1.650	14
Neville Jetta	1.650	14
Alex N-Bullen	1.500	16
Ed Langdon	1.450	17
Jack Viney	1.350	18
Joel Smith	1.250	19
Jayden Hunt	0.875	20
Jake Melksham	0.750	21
Sam Weideman	0.625	22
Team Score	46.050
Top 6	19.800
Bottom 6	6.300

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

Rusty how does metres gained get calculated for kick outs? May took most of them,  I'm assuming that if he kicks from within the goal square it doesn't count (it doesn't count as a kick either), but if he plays on for a few metres first it counts for both?

2 hours ago, deanox said:

Rusty how does metres gained get calculated for kick outs? May took most of them,  I'm assuming that if he kicks from within the goal square it doesn't count (it doesn't count as a kick either), but if he plays on for a few metres first it counts for both?

Yes once he plays on they count the ground covered then meters gained from the kick Ox.

As with most stats we can access this one is a poor cousin to the ones that are sitting inside the Champion data library.

Ideally we would want to see the most efficient meters gained.  That's effective meters gained ie;  meters gained from running/kicking that doesn't end in a turnover PLUS assisted meters gained ie; as the name suggests how many meters the player you effectively gave the ball to ...gains (the above are excerpts from a pretty good article that covers this from ESPN below)...

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/27199381/metres-gained-breaking-afl-most-misunderstood-statistic

Weighted Averages up to and including Rnd 17, 2020

Player	2020 Weighted Score	2020 Rank	2019 Weighted Score	% Change vs 2019	% Change vs 2019 w/ 20% time adjusted	2019 Rank	Change in Rank vs 2019
Clayton Oliver	4.009	1	4.880	-17.85	2.69	1	0
Christian Petracca	3.564	2	2.843	25.36	56.70	9	7
Max Gawn #	2.946	3	3.437	-14.29	7.14	4	1
Jack Viney	2.845	4	3.258	-12.68	9.15	5	1
Steven May	2.845	4	2.618	8.67	35.84	14	10
Christian Salem	2.725	6	3.658	-25.51	-6.88	3	-3
Ed Langdon	2.659	7	-	-	-	-	-
Angus Brayshaw	2.589	8	3.131	-17.31	3.36	6	-2
Jake Lever	2.302	9	2.519	-8.61	14.23	16	7
James Harmes	2.262	10	4.039	-44.00	-30.00	2	-8
Michael Hibberd	2.244	11	2.339	-4.06	19.92	19	8
Tom Sparrow	2.150	12	1.275	68.63	110.78	37	25
Trent Rivers	2.097	13	-	-	-	-	-
Oskar Baker	1.963	14	1.714	14.53	43.16	29	15
Adam Tomlinson #	1.921	15	-	-	-	-	-
Harley Bennell	1.850	16	-	-	-	-	-
Bayley Fritsch	1.715	17	2.809	-38.95	-23.68	10	-7
Oscar McDonald #	1.682	18	1.956	-14.01	7.49	26	8
Tom McDonald #	1.675	19	2.297	-27.08	-8.85	20	1
Jay Lockhart	1.650	20	1.819	-9.29	13.39	30	10
Nathan Jones	1.638	21	2.907	-43.65	-29.57	7	-14
Alex N-Bullen	1.617	22	2.120	-23.73	-4.66	22	0
Aaron Vandenburg	1.530	23	-	-	-	-	-
Mitchell Hannan	1.506	24	1.433	5.09	31.37	36	12
Charlie Spargo	1.493	25	1.513	-1.32	23.35	35	10
Luke Jackson #	1.463	26	-	-	-	-	-
Jake Melksham	1.442	27	2.181	-33.88	-17.35	21	-6
Neville Jetta	1.404	28	2.264	-37.99	-22.48	18	-10
Sam Weideman	1.350	29	1.895	-28.76	-10.95	27	-2
Mitchell Brown #	1.344	30	-	-	-	-	-
Kysaiah Pickett	1.331	31	-	-	-	-	-
Braydon Preuss #	1.325	32	1.643	-19.35	0.81	33	1
Joel Smith	1.113	33	-	-	-	-	-
Toby Bedford	0.925	34	-	-	-	-	-
Jayden Hunt	0.850	35	2.092	-59.37	-49.21	23	-12
Average Team Score - Top 22	50.948		59.623	-14.55	6.81

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

Edited September 13, 20204 yr by Rusty Nails

Rnd 18, 2020 Metricon - Bombers vs Demons

Player	Score	Rank
Clayton Oliver	3.900	1
Jack Viney	3.800	2
Steven May	3.775	3
Christian Salem	3.675	4
Jake Lever	3.600	5
Christian Petracca	3.450	6
Michael Hibberd	3.100	7
Max Gawn #	3.025	8
Bayley Fritsch	2.975	9
Jayden Hunt	2.600	10
Adam Tomlinson	2.500	11
Aaron Vandenberg	2.425	12
Ed Langdon	2.400	13
Trent Rivers	2.375	14
Mitchell Brown #	2.300	15
Alex N-Bullen	2.225	16
Oskar Baker	1.875	17
Sam Weideman	1.425	18
Kysaiah Pickett	1.350	19
Jake Melksham	1.325	20
Joel Smith	0.825	21
Charlie Spargo	0.350	22
Team Score	55.275
Top 6	22.200
Bottom 6	7.150

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

 

50 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

Rnd 18, 2020 Metricon - Bombers vs Demons

Player	Score	Rank
Clayton Oliver	3.900	1
Jack Viney	3.800	2
Steven May	3.775	3
Christian Salem	3.675	4
Jake Lever	3.600	5
Christian Petracca	3.450	6
Michael Hibberd	3.100	7
Max Gawn #	3.025	8
Bayley Fritsch	2.975	9
Jayden Hunt	2.600	10
Adam Tomlinson	2.500	11
Aaron Vandenberg	2.425	12
Ed Langdon	2.400	13
Trent Rivers	2.375	14
Mitchell Brown #	2.300	15
Alex N-Bullen	2.225	16
Oskar Baker	1.875	17
Sam Weideman	1.425	18
Kysaiah Pickett	1.350	19
Jake Melksham	1.325	20
Joel Smith	0.825	21
Charlie Spargo	0.350	22
Team Score	55.275
Top 6	22.200
Bottom 6	7.150

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

 

Thanks, Rusty

Here’s hoping this is not the last one for the year!

Interesting to note we had more players above 3, and less below 1 than we seem to have most weeks.  To have the full back at #3 is really unbelievable - May has been fabulous.  I know the stats don’t  show H/o to advantage, but in the first half Max had a day out at the fair!

 

10 hours ago, buck_nekkid said:

Thanks, Rusty

Here’s hoping this is not the last one for the year!

Interesting to note we had more players above 3, and less below 1 than we seem to have most weeks.  To have the full back at #3 is really unbelievable - May has been fabulous.  I know the stats don’t  show H/o to advantage, but in the first half Max had a day out at the fair!

 

Yes that would be about May's 12th top five finish in these tables.  Quite incredible as the stats tend to usually favour the mids as we know.

That was our third best team score for the season.  A 13% improvement on our 2019 season average and matching our 2018 season average.

Maxy must have been well ahead of everyone in the supercoach ratings etc at half time.  He was killing it for sure.

Honestly, had the mids connected with the forwards and a few more of the forwards performed to a decent level in that third quarter they wouldn't have got anywhere near us.  We owned them in the third but didn't capitalise on the amount of good work being done outside 50.  That last kick inside 50 is still a long way off AFL worthy also.

We will tread water again next season if we don't fix the disconnect and the lack of KF/small forward/forward pressure issues.  Kozzy will be fine.  I would even consider giving Hunt a 1 year contract on the back of that performance.  Fritta is ok if he can fix his accuracy on set shots.  Not sure about the rest of our forward line though.  Needs an overhaul IMHO.

Edited September 19, 20204 yr by Rusty Nails

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Edited September 20, 20204 yr by Rusty Nails

2020 H&A Season - Weighted Averages

Clarry tops the weighted stats charts for the third year running and yes for those wondering, these tables account for turnovers!

Biggest fall from grace is Harmes who finished 2nd last season and Melk dropping off even further after a pretty ordinary 2019.  The biggest rise obviously Tracc with the break out year we were all hoping for.  Add a bit of zip and class on the outside (non-Ed wing) and that mid field could be something special in  2021.

Fix the forward line woes and the last kick coming inside 50 more often and next year could be something decent.  Don't and i fear we may well be in for something akin to this season.

If the Dockers get over the line this arvo hopefully we can bring LJ in.  Would be great to see the 3 Amigos (Kozzy, RIvers & LJ)  playing a final together in their first year!

Player	2020 Weighted Score	2020 Rank	2019 Weighted Score	% Change vs 2019	% Change vs 2019 w/ 20% time adjusted	2019 Rank	Change in Rank vs 2019
Clayton Oliver	4.003	1	4.880	-17.97	2.54	1	0
Christian Petracca	3.557	2	2.843	25.11	56.39	9	7
Max Gawn #	2.952	3	3.437	-14.11	7.36	4	1
Jack Viney	2.905	4	3.258	-10.83	11.46	5	1
Steven May	2.900	5	2.618	10.77	38.46	14	9
Christian Salem	2.784	6	3.658	-23.89	-4.87	3	-3
Ed Langdon	2.644	7	-	-	-	-	-
Angus Brayshaw	2.589	8	3.131	-17.31	3.36	6	-2
Jake Lever	2.378	9	2.519	-5.60	18.00	16	7
Michael Hibberd	2.305	10	2.339	-1.45	23.18	19	9
James Harmes	2.262	11	4.039	-44.00	-30.00	2	-9
Tom Sparrow	2.150	12	1.275	68.63	110.78	37	25
Trent Rivers	2.128	13	-	-	-	-	-
Adam Tomlinson #	1.965	14	-	-	-	-	-
Oskar Baker	1.933	15	1.714	12.78	40.97	29	14
Harley Bennell	1.850	16	-	-	-	-	-
Bayley Fritsch	1.794	17	2.809	-36.13	-20.17	10	-7
Alex N-Bullen	1.704	18	2.120	-19.62	0.47	22	4
Oscar McDonald #	1.682	19	1.956	-14.01	7.49	26	7
Tom McDonald #	1.675	20	2.297	-27.08	-8.85	20	0
Jay Lockhart	1.650	21	1.819	-9.29	13.39	30	9
Nathan Jones	1.638	22	2.907	-43.65	-29.57	7	-15
Aaron Vandenburg	1.604	23	-	-	-	-	-
Mitchell Brown #	1.535	24	-	-	-	-	-
Mitchell Hannan	1.506	25	1.433	5.09	31.37	36	11
Luke Jackson #	1.463	26	-	-	-	-	-
Jake Melksham	1.435	27	2.181	-34.20	-17.76	21	-6
Neville Jetta	1.404	28	2.264	-37.99	-22.48	18	-10
Sam Weideman	1.356	29	1.895	-28.44	-10.55	27	-2
Charlie Spargo	1.350	30	1.513	-10.77	11.53	35	5
Kysaiah Pickett	1.332	31	-	-	-	-	-
Braydon Preuss #	1.325	32	1.643	-19.35	0.81	33	1
Jayden Hunt	1.142	33	2.092	-45.41	-31.76	23	-10
Joel Smith	1.071	34	-	-	-	-	-
Toby Bedford	0.925	35	-	-	-	-	-
Average Team Score - Top 22	51.448		59.623	-13.71	7.86

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

Edited September 20, 20204 yr by Rusty Nails

P.S.  should have added May into the big risers category alongside Tracc.  The big fella's had some year.

Thanks again rusty.

I think that is all for this year.  The stats show that we have a few major gaps - a bit more class in the middle (outside run), a T-Mac (interesting that he ranked the same last year and this year) and a small forward to support Kozzie.

Ollie, Trac, May and Langdon had great years, and I expect to see them at the top of the Bluey.  It will be interesting to see the Bluey top 10 vs this list.

Appreciate your efforts in 2020.

12 hours ago, buck_nekkid said:

Thanks again rusty.

I think that is all for this year.  The stats show that we have a few major gaps - a bit more class in the middle (outside run), a T-Mac (interesting that he ranked the same last year and this year) and a small forward to support Kozzie.

Ollie, Trac, May and Langdon had great years, and I expect to see them at the top of the Bluey.  It will be interesting to see the Bluey top 10 vs this list.

Appreciate your efforts in 2020.

Morning Buck.  Unfortunately another year passes and we wait once again for some traction.  Yes the old Bluey.  For mine it comes down to consistency and Clarry is top of the tree here.  Rain, hail or shine the bloke puts in.  No.1 contested possession getter in the league.  If he doesn't win the Bluey they got rocks in their heads i reckon.  All the best during the off season and thanks for your input also ✌️

We have 3 players in the top 10 or so in the league for clangers. And 4 of the top 16 for turnovers.  (Langdon). 

We overrate our midfield. It was a butchering machine this year. Goodwin needs to engineer a more efficient system or personnel somehow.  He keeps talking about building a brand for finals which is ironic cause the brand cant cut the mustard over 22 home and away rounds. 

2 hours ago, Jjrogan said:

We have 3 players in the top 10 or so in the league for clangers. And 4 of the top 16 for turnovers.  (Langdon). 

We overrate our midfield. It was a butchering machine this year. Goodwin needs to engineer a more efficient system or personnel somehow.  He keeps talking about building a brand for finals which is ironic cause the brand cant cut the mustard over 22 home and away rounds. 

I always wonder if the turnovers are the fault of the midfielders (lack of skills or decision making) or forwards (not in position or moving).

I think with us its a bit of both,  but I do think if we can sort the forward line out (through cosching, player learning/improving/growth or recruitment) the mids will look like stars.