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38 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

Weighted Averages up to and including Rnd 16, 2020

Player 2020 Weighted Score 2020 Rank 2019 Weighted Score % Change vs 2019 % Change vs 2019 w/ 20% time adjusted 2019 Rank Change in Rank vs 2019
Clayton Oliver  4.093 1 4.880 -16.13 4.84 1 0
Christian Petracca  3.608 2 2.843 26.91 58.64 9 7
Max Gawn # 3.027 3 3.437 -11.93 10.09 4 1
Jack Viney  2.952 4 3.258 -9.39 13.26 5 1
Steven May  2.752 5 2.618 5.12 31.40 14 9
Ed Langdon  2.740 6 - - - - -
Christian Salem 2.693 7 3.658 -26.38 -7.98 3 -4
Angus Brayshaw  2.589 8 3.131 -17.31 3.36 6 -2
James Harmes  2.262 9 4.039 -44.00 -30.00 2 -7
Jake Lever  2.248 10 2.519 -10.76 11.55 16 6
Michael Hibberd  2.244 11 2.339 -4.06 19.92 19 8
Tom Sparrow 2.150 12 1.275 68.63 110.78 37 25
Adam Tomlinson # 1.932 13 - - - - -
Trent Rivers 1.904 14 - - - - -
Harley Bennell 1.850 15 - - - - -
Bayley Fritsch  1.720 16 2.809 -38.77 -23.46 10 -6
Oscar McDonald # 1.682 17 1.956 -14.01 7.49 26 9
Tom McDonald # 1.675 18 2.297 -27.08 -8.85 20 2
Jay Lockhart  1.650 19 1.819 -9.29 13.39 30 11
Oskar Baker * 1.650 19 1.714 -3.73 20.33 29 10
Alex N-Bullen  1.640 21 2.120 -22.64 -3.30 22 1
Nathan Jones 1.638 22 2.907 -43.65 -29.57 7 -15
Mitchell Hannan 1.506 23 1.433 5.09 31.37 36 13
Jake Melksham  1.488 24 2.181 -31.77 -14.72 21 -3
Aaron Vandenburg 1.485 25 - - - - -
Luke Jackson # 1.463 26 - - - - -
Sam Weideman 1.416 27 1.895 -25.28 -6.60 27 0
Charlie Spargo 1.375 28 1.513 -9.12 13.60 35 7
Neville Jetta  1.355 29 2.264 -40.15 -25.19 18 -11
Braydon Preuss # 1.325 30 1.643 -19.35 0.81 33 3
Kysaiah Pickett  1.198 31 - - - - -
Joel Smith 1.085 32 - - - - -
Mitchell Brown 1.067 33 - - - - -
Toby Bedford 0.925 34 - - - - -
Jayden Hunt 0.844 35 2.092 -59.66 -49.57 23 -12
Average Team Score - Top 22 50.699   59.623 -14.97 6.29    

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

* One match only, not an average

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

Crazy amount of work to create this from week to week.  You deserve a medal!  

%change vs 2019....am i correct to assume from these stats that 4 players have improved and the rest have gone backwards?

Really felt development has been an issue but this paints even more of the picture!

Hannan has improved marginally.  Sparrow barely played in 2019 so presume his increase is expected.  Steven May a slight increase.  Petracca improved dramatically.   We had such a crappy year in 2019 and we have 4 players in total to improve on that.  

Ahhh actually just saw the % change with -20% time adjustment.  This actually paints another picture.  Most have improved from last year which feels marginal but more true.  2019 was awful!  10 senior players have got worse....Salem, Harmes, Fritch, T Mac, ANB, Jones, Melksham, Weideman, Jetta and Hunt.  What is going on with this lot haha?!

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5 hours ago, NeveroddoreveN said:

Crazy amount of work to create this from week to week.  You deserve a medal!  

%change vs 2019....am i correct to assume from these stats that 4 players have improved and the rest have gone backwards?

Really felt development has been an issue but this paints even more of the picture!

Hannan has improved marginally.  Sparrow barely played in 2019 so presume his increase is expected.  Steven May a slight increase.  Petracca improved dramatically.   We had such a crappy year in 2019 and we have 4 players in total to improve on that.  

Ahhh actually just saw the % change with -20% time adjustment.  This actually paints another picture.  Most have improved from last year which feels marginal but more true.  2019 was awful!  10 senior players have got worse....Salem, Harmes, Fritch, T Mac, ANB, Jones, Melksham, Weideman, Jetta and Hunt.  What is going on with this lot haha?!

More enjoyable doing this if we were showing some sort of cohesion and purpose NVROD.

Sadly i think the hap hazard performances might be the result of systemic failure within the FD & morale of the playing group in general.  I'm a true believer in body language and from what i'm witnessing in the box, on the bench and from the game day footage inside the rooms, my gut feel tells me things are not going well inside the four walls of late.

The wheels have well and truly fallen off.

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Rnd 17, 2020 GABBA - GWS vs Demons

Very rare for a genuine defender to top these weighted stats tables.  Let alone two!  Maybe Salem playing a part time role off HB on occasions in 2019 but not sure whether he actually did or not.

May's 11th top five finish for the season.  What a year he's having.  Old Man rolls in at No.2 for an early break out game.  Throw in Lever and that's three defenders in the top five.  Our defence is the bomb this season.  And then there's that forward line.  Gadzooks.  Spargo about the only good thing.  Although Mitch may have played an extra spare dropping back at times, and at least one ruck contest for a hit out!  Definitely his best game at the MFC so far IMV.

Pickett also showing something more of what were hoping we were in for with a top 5 finish.  Just needs to hit the scoreboard a few more times with the chances he's getting to put the icing on the cake.  I suspect he is a pre-season or two away from this, needing to build a hardened bod to get the extra distance and steady over that step or two around corners etc.

Top five for meters gained....

1.  May with 467   2.  Ed 462   3. Salem 369   4. Baker 334   5. Pickett 319  

Happy to get the win but not getting too excited in terms of improvement statistically anyway.  Team score being approx 3% below the 2019 season average and 14% down on 2018.

Player Score Rank
Steven May  4.250 1
Trent Rivers  3.450 2
Christian Salem  3.175 3
Jake Lever  3.100 4
Kysaiah Pickett  2.925 5
Christian Petracca  2.900 6
Clayton Oliver  2.750 7
Oskar Baker  2.275 8
Charlie Spargo  2.200 9
Mitchell Brown # 2.175 10
Aaron Vandenberg  1.975 11
Max Gawn # 1.975 11
Adam Tomlinson  1.800 13
Bayley Fritsch  1.650 14
Neville Jetta  1.650 14
Alex N-Bullen  1.500 16
Ed Langdon  1.450 17
Jack Viney  1.350 18
Joel Smith  1.250 19
Jayden Hunt  0.875 20
Jake Melksham  0.750 21
Sam Weideman  0.625 22
Team Score 46.050  
Top 6 19.800  
Bottom 6 6.300  

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

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9 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

Rnd 17, 2020 GABBA - GWS vs Demons

Very rare for a genuine defender to top these weighted stats tables.  Let alone two!  Maybe Salem playing a part time role off HB on occasions in 2019 but not sure whether he actually did or not.

May's 11th top five finish for the season.  What a year he's having.  Old Man rolls in at No.2 for an early break out game.  Throw in Lever and that's three defenders in the top five.  Our defence is the bomb this season.  And then there's that forward line.  Gadzooks.  Spargo about the only good thing.  Although Mitch may have played an extra spare dropping back at times, and at least one ruck contest for a hit out!  Definitely his best game at the MFC so far IMV.

Pickett also showing something more of what were hoping we were in for with a top 5 finish.  Just needs to hit the scoreboard a few more times with the chances he's getting to put the icing on the cake.  I suspect he is a pre-season or two away from this, needing to build a hardened bod to get the extra distance and steady over that step or two around corners etc.

Top five for meters gained....

1.  May with 467   2.  Ed 462   3. Salem 369   4. Baker 334   5. Pickett 319  

Happy to get the win but not getting too excited in terms of improvement statistically anyway.  Team score being approx 3% below the 2019 season average and 14% down on 2018.

Player Score Rank
Steven May  4.250 1
Trent Rivers  3.450 2
Christian Salem  3.175 3
Jake Lever  3.100 4
Kysaiah Pickett  2.925 5
Christian Petracca  2.900 6
Clayton Oliver  2.750 7
Oskar Baker  2.275 8
Charlie Spargo  2.200 9
Mitchell Brown # 2.175 10
Aaron Vandenberg  1.975 11
Max Gawn # 1.975 11
Adam Tomlinson  1.800 13
Bayley Fritsch  1.650 14
Neville Jetta  1.650 14
Alex N-Bullen  1.500 16
Ed Langdon  1.450 17
Jack Viney  1.350 18
Joel Smith  1.250 19
Jayden Hunt  0.875 20
Jake Melksham  0.750 21
Sam Weideman  0.625 22
Team Score 46.050  
Top 6 19.800  
Bottom 6 6.300  

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

Rusty how does metres gained get calculated for kick outs? May took most of them,  I'm assuming that if he kicks from within the goal square it doesn't count (it doesn't count as a kick either), but if he plays on for a few metres first it counts for both?

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2 hours ago, deanox said:

Rusty how does metres gained get calculated for kick outs? May took most of them,  I'm assuming that if he kicks from within the goal square it doesn't count (it doesn't count as a kick either), but if he plays on for a few metres first it counts for both?

Yes once he plays on they count the ground covered then meters gained from the kick Ox.

As with most stats we can access this one is a poor cousin to the ones that are sitting inside the Champion data library.

Ideally we would want to see the most efficient meters gained.  That's effective meters gained ie;  meters gained from running/kicking that doesn't end in a turnover PLUS assisted meters gained ie; as the name suggests how many meters the player you effectively gave the ball to ...gains (the above are excerpts from a pretty good article that covers this from ESPN below)...

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/27199381/metres-gained-breaking-afl-most-misunderstood-statistic


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Weighted Averages up to and including Rnd 17, 2020

Player 2020 Weighted Score 2020 Rank 2019 Weighted Score % Change vs 2019 % Change vs 2019 w/ 20% time adjusted 2019 Rank Change in Rank vs 2019
Clayton Oliver  4.009 1 4.880 -17.85 2.69 1 0
Christian Petracca  3.564 2 2.843 25.36 56.70 9 7
Max Gawn # 2.946 3 3.437 -14.29 7.14 4 1
Jack Viney  2.845 4 3.258 -12.68 9.15 5 1
Steven May  2.845 4 2.618 8.67 35.84 14 10
Christian Salem 2.725 6 3.658 -25.51 -6.88 3 -3
Ed Langdon  2.659 7 - - - - -
Angus Brayshaw  2.589 8 3.131 -17.31 3.36 6 -2
Jake Lever  2.302 9 2.519 -8.61 14.23 16 7
James Harmes  2.262 10 4.039 -44.00 -30.00 2 -8
Michael Hibberd  2.244 11 2.339 -4.06 19.92 19 8
Tom Sparrow 2.150 12 1.275 68.63 110.78 37 25
Trent Rivers 2.097 13 - - - - -
Oskar Baker 1.963 14 1.714 14.53 43.16 29 15
Adam Tomlinson # 1.921 15 - - - - -
Harley Bennell 1.850 16 - - - - -
Bayley Fritsch  1.715 17 2.809 -38.95 -23.68 10 -7
Oscar McDonald # 1.682 18 1.956 -14.01 7.49 26 8
Tom McDonald # 1.675 19 2.297 -27.08 -8.85 20 1
Jay Lockhart  1.650 20 1.819 -9.29 13.39 30 10
Nathan Jones 1.638 21 2.907 -43.65 -29.57 7 -14
Alex N-Bullen  1.617 22 2.120 -23.73 -4.66 22 0
Aaron Vandenburg 1.530 23 - - - - -
Mitchell Hannan 1.506 24 1.433 5.09 31.37 36 12
Charlie Spargo 1.493 25 1.513 -1.32 23.35 35 10
Luke Jackson # 1.463 26 - - - - -
Jake Melksham  1.442 27 2.181 -33.88 -17.35 21 -6
Neville Jetta  1.404 28 2.264 -37.99 -22.48 18 -10
Sam Weideman 1.350 29 1.895 -28.76 -10.95 27 -2
Mitchell Brown # 1.344 30 - - - - -
Kysaiah Pickett  1.331 31 - - - - -
Braydon Preuss # 1.325 32 1.643 -19.35 0.81 33 1
Joel Smith 1.113 33 - - - - -
Toby Bedford 0.925 34 - - - - -
Jayden Hunt 0.850 35 2.092 -59.37 -49.21 23 -12
Average Team Score - Top 22 50.948   59.623 -14.55 6.81    

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

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Rnd 18, 2020 Metricon - Bombers vs Demons

Player Score Rank
Clayton Oliver  3.900 1
Jack Viney  3.800 2
Steven May  3.775 3
Christian Salem  3.675 4
Jake Lever  3.600 5
Christian Petracca  3.450 6
Michael Hibberd  3.100 7
Max Gawn # 3.025 8
Bayley Fritsch  2.975 9
Jayden Hunt  2.600 10
Adam Tomlinson  2.500 11
Aaron Vandenberg  2.425 12
Ed Langdon  2.400 13
Trent Rivers  2.375 14
Mitchell Brown # 2.300 15
Alex N-Bullen  2.225 16
Oskar Baker  1.875 17
Sam Weideman  1.425 18
Kysaiah Pickett  1.350 19
Jake Melksham  1.325 20
Joel Smith  0.825 21
Charlie Spargo  0.350 22
Team Score 55.275  
Top 6 22.200  
Bottom 6 7.150  

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

 

50 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

Rnd 18, 2020 Metricon - Bombers vs Demons

Player Score Rank
Clayton Oliver  3.900 1
Jack Viney  3.800 2
Steven May  3.775 3
Christian Salem  3.675 4
Jake Lever  3.600 5
Christian Petracca  3.450 6
Michael Hibberd  3.100 7
Max Gawn # 3.025 8
Bayley Fritsch  2.975 9
Jayden Hunt  2.600 10
Adam Tomlinson  2.500 11
Aaron Vandenberg  2.425 12
Ed Langdon  2.400 13
Trent Rivers  2.375 14
Mitchell Brown # 2.300 15
Alex N-Bullen  2.225 16
Oskar Baker  1.875 17
Sam Weideman  1.425 18
Kysaiah Pickett  1.350 19
Jake Melksham  1.325 20
Joel Smith  0.825 21
Charlie Spargo  0.350 22
Team Score 55.275  
Top 6 22.200  
Bottom 6 7.150  

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

 

Thanks, Rusty

Here’s hoping this is not the last one for the year!

Interesting to note we had more players above 3, and less below 1 than we seem to have most weeks.  To have the full back at #3 is really unbelievable - May has been fabulous.  I know the stats don’t  show H/o to advantage, but in the first half Max had a day out at the fair!

 

 
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10 hours ago, buck_nekkid said:

Thanks, Rusty

Here’s hoping this is not the last one for the year!

Interesting to note we had more players above 3, and less below 1 than we seem to have most weeks.  To have the full back at #3 is really unbelievable - May has been fabulous.  I know the stats don’t  show H/o to advantage, but in the first half Max had a day out at the fair!

 

Yes that would be about May's 12th top five finish in these tables.  Quite incredible as the stats tend to usually favour the mids as we know.

That was our third best team score for the season.  A 13% improvement on our 2019 season average and matching our 2018 season average.

Maxy must have been well ahead of everyone in the supercoach ratings etc at half time.  He was killing it for sure.

Honestly, had the mids connected with the forwards and a few more of the forwards performed to a decent level in that third quarter they wouldn't have got anywhere near us.  We owned them in the third but didn't capitalise on the amount of good work being done outside 50.  That last kick inside 50 is still a long way off AFL worthy also.

We will tread water again next season if we don't fix the disconnect and the lack of KF/small forward/forward pressure issues.  Kozzy will be fine.  I would even consider giving Hunt a 1 year contract on the back of that performance.  Fritta is ok if he can fix his accuracy on set shots.  Not sure about the rest of our forward line though.  Needs an overhaul IMHO.

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2020 H&A Season - Weighted Averages

Clarry tops the weighted stats charts for the third year running and yes for those wondering, these tables account for turnovers!

Biggest fall from grace is Harmes who finished 2nd last season and Melk dropping off even further after a pretty ordinary 2019.  The biggest rise obviously Tracc with the break out year we were all hoping for.  Add a bit of zip and class on the outside (non-Ed wing) and that mid field could be something special in  2021.

Fix the forward line woes and the last kick coming inside 50 more often and next year could be something decent.  Don't and i fear we may well be in for something akin to this season.

If the Dockers get over the line this arvo hopefully we can bring LJ in.  Would be great to see the 3 Amigos (Kozzy, RIvers & LJ)  playing a final together in their first year!

Player 2020 Weighted Score 2020 Rank 2019 Weighted Score % Change vs 2019 % Change vs 2019 w/ 20% time adjusted 2019 Rank Change in Rank vs 2019
Clayton Oliver  4.003 1 4.880 -17.97 2.54 1 0
Christian Petracca  3.557 2 2.843 25.11 56.39 9 7
Max Gawn # 2.952 3 3.437 -14.11 7.36 4 1
Jack Viney  2.905 4 3.258 -10.83 11.46 5 1
Steven May  2.900 5 2.618 10.77 38.46 14 9
Christian Salem 2.784 6 3.658 -23.89 -4.87 3 -3
Ed Langdon  2.644 7 - - - - -
Angus Brayshaw  2.589 8 3.131 -17.31 3.36 6 -2
Jake Lever  2.378 9 2.519 -5.60 18.00 16 7
Michael Hibberd  2.305 10 2.339 -1.45 23.18 19 9
James Harmes  2.262 11 4.039 -44.00 -30.00 2 -9
Tom Sparrow 2.150 12 1.275 68.63 110.78 37 25
Trent Rivers 2.128 13 - - - - -
Adam Tomlinson # 1.965 14 - - - - -
Oskar Baker 1.933 15 1.714 12.78 40.97 29 14
Harley Bennell 1.850 16 - - - - -
Bayley Fritsch  1.794 17 2.809 -36.13 -20.17 10 -7
Alex N-Bullen  1.704 18 2.120 -19.62 0.47 22 4
Oscar McDonald # 1.682 19 1.956 -14.01 7.49 26 7
Tom McDonald # 1.675 20 2.297 -27.08 -8.85 20 0
Jay Lockhart  1.650 21 1.819 -9.29 13.39 30 9
Nathan Jones 1.638 22 2.907 -43.65 -29.57 7 -15
Aaron Vandenburg 1.604 23 - - - - -
Mitchell Brown # 1.535 24 - - - - -
Mitchell Hannan 1.506 25 1.433 5.09 31.37 36 11
Luke Jackson # 1.463 26 - - - - -
Jake Melksham  1.435 27 2.181 -34.20 -17.76 21 -6
Neville Jetta  1.404 28 2.264 -37.99 -22.48 18 -10
Sam Weideman 1.356 29 1.895 -28.44 -10.55 27 -2
Charlie Spargo 1.350 30 1.513 -10.77 11.53 35 5
Kysaiah Pickett  1.332 31 - - - - -
Braydon Preuss # 1.325 32 1.643 -19.35 0.81 33 1
Jayden Hunt 1.142 33 2.092 -45.41 -31.76 23 -10
Joel Smith 1.071 34 - - - - -
Toby Bedford 0.925 35 - - - - -
Average Team Score - Top 22 51.448   59.623 -13.71 7.86    

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

Edited by Rusty Nails

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P.S.  should have added May into the big risers category alongside Tracc.  The big fella's had some year.

Thanks again rusty.

I think that is all for this year.  The stats show that we have a few major gaps - a bit more class in the middle (outside run), a T-Mac (interesting that he ranked the same last year and this year) and a small forward to support Kozzie.

Ollie, Trac, May and Langdon had great years, and I expect to see them at the top of the Bluey.  It will be interesting to see the Bluey top 10 vs this list.

Appreciate your efforts in 2020.

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12 hours ago, buck_nekkid said:

Thanks again rusty.

I think that is all for this year.  The stats show that we have a few major gaps - a bit more class in the middle (outside run), a T-Mac (interesting that he ranked the same last year and this year) and a small forward to support Kozzie.

Ollie, Trac, May and Langdon had great years, and I expect to see them at the top of the Bluey.  It will be interesting to see the Bluey top 10 vs this list.

Appreciate your efforts in 2020.

Morning Buck.  Unfortunately another year passes and we wait once again for some traction.  Yes the old Bluey.  For mine it comes down to consistency and Clarry is top of the tree here.  Rain, hail or shine the bloke puts in.  No.1 contested possession getter in the league.  If he doesn't win the Bluey they got rocks in their heads i reckon.  All the best during the off season and thanks for your input also ✌️

We have 3 players in the top 10 or so in the league for clangers. And 4 of the top 16 for turnovers.  (Langdon). 

We overrate our midfield. It was a butchering machine this year. Goodwin needs to engineer a more efficient system or personnel somehow.  He keeps talking about building a brand for finals which is ironic cause the brand cant cut the mustard over 22 home and away rounds. 


2 hours ago, Jjrogan said:

We have 3 players in the top 10 or so in the league for clangers. And 4 of the top 16 for turnovers.  (Langdon). 

We overrate our midfield. It was a butchering machine this year. Goodwin needs to engineer a more efficient system or personnel somehow.  He keeps talking about building a brand for finals which is ironic cause the brand cant cut the mustard over 22 home and away rounds. 

I always wonder if the turnovers are the fault of the midfielders (lack of skills or decision making) or forwards (not in position or moving).

I think with us its a bit of both,  but I do think if we can sort the forward line out (through cosching, player learning/improving/growth or recruitment) the mids will look like stars.

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