Islam in the West

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31 minutes ago, Jara said:

im just home and having a quick look on my phone but i don't understand. Is this a picture of the Eid festival or something? Why are you posting it? Am i missing something or is it just a photo of people praying? 

Yep end of Ramadan, we get a holiday (-; , am enjoying today with a lovely glass of wine.

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5 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I worked in the Middle East... 

I was present when a 16 year old girl was sentenced to death by an Islamic court for having a boyfriend. She was hung in public. 

I’m not worried about Islamic terrorists, I’ve actually done my bit in helping eradicate the world of them. Probably while you were safe at home, being a warrior from behind your keyboard. Clearly you don’t know three things. 

Fortunately there’s no Mosques in my area so no need to donate. 

So have I, did you even read the thread? I've listed where i have been, for 23 years now in harms way (ok Rome has been cushy last couple of years, but I travel a fair bit). I actually feel a bit sorry for you, seeing anyone killed and not being able to do anything must gnaw at you. I can understand with a first hand experience like that you might be damaged. All i am arguing against is this one size fits all approach to islam, it's moronic, we have no argument about the extremists, I want them extinct. But I cannot reconcile all the muslims I know who are good faithful people by any western definition as being the same as nut jobs who commit atrocities like your description.

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8 hours ago, DaisyDeeciple said:

But I cannot reconcile all the muslims I know who are good faithful people by any western definition as being the same as nut jobs who commit atrocities like your description.

This post isn't about Muslims, it's about Islam.  

The Muslims you know and like don't practice Islam in the way it's intended.  And thank %$#@ for that.

Islam is clear and unambiguous. 

I can only assume that you're one of the many who don't understand Islam.   And there's nothing worse that someone who pontificates through sheer ignorance.

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On 10 June 2018 at 11:32 PM, ProDee said:

Incorrect.  I'm cause based and never side based.

You are wrong.

Pro - You keep boasting about what an "expert" you are on Islam.

You said back there your expertise was based upon your wide reading and "anecdotes".  I'm not interested in the latter (which I presume is Pro-speak for unmediated rubbish you see on the Internet), but what is this "reading"? What are the books you've read? (I know you've mentioned the Koran, but using that as the basis for an argument would be like using the Bible to condemn the Christian West) 

 

By the way, I'm still waiting for your explanation of what you mean by saying you're "cause-based" and we're "side based".

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4 minutes ago, Jara said:

Pro - You keep boasting about what an "expert" you are on Islam.

You said back there your expertise was based upon your wide reading and "anecdotes".  I'm not interested in the latter (which I presume is Pro-speak for unmediated rubbish you see on the Internet), but what is this "reading"? What are the books you've read? (I know you've mentioned the Koran, but using that as the basis for an argument would be like using the Bible to condemn the Christian West) 

 

By the way, I'm still waiting for your explanation of what you mean by saying you're "cause-based" and we're "side based".

I'll answer your question if you change your username to Soot.

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Hmmm...guessed as much. Lots of "anecdotes", precious few books. 

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Unfortunately, these threads are becoming more trouble than their worth, and the powers that be have decreed that there’ll be no more politics, religion, ideology, or cultural wars on the general board, as it is with the footy board. 

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Edited June 16, 2018 by Grapeviney