The adventures of President Donald Gump

By Earl Hood
February 4, 2017 in General Discussion

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BRITISH GENOCIDE RAP SHEET

N.B: due to the enormity of Britain's imperialist crimes
this rap sheet can never be a complete record

not a single Briton has ever been held

accountable for crimes against humanity

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THE BUTCHER'S APRON RAP SHEET

BRITISH AFRICAN SLAVE TRADE 1564 - 1807

SIR JOHN HAWKINS RECOGNIZED AS THE FIRST BRITISH SLAVER NOTICE HOW BRITAIN'S EXCEPTIONAL TYRANTS ARE KNIGHTED....

Estimated deaths: 4 million plus innumerable descendants of slaves

Estimated slaves: 3.4 million

Enduring criminality: Britain's imperialist expansion was in large part funded by the profits of slavery. Britain's anglo-American spawns became immensely rich to eventually steal the entire North American land mass from the Indigenous peoples. In short Britain spawned the current anglo-American super power ensuring the survival and prosperity of modern day Britain and to further perpetuate crimes against humanity across humanity.

The exact number of British ships in the Slave Trade will probably never be known but, in the 245 years between Hawkins first voyage and the abolition of the Slave Trade in 1807, merchants in Britain despatched about 10,000 voyages to Africa for slaves, with merchants in other parts of the British Empire perhaps fitting out a further 1,150 voyages. Historian, Professor David Richardson, has calculated that British ships carried 3.4 million or more enslaved Africans to the Americas.

Since the delivery of millions of slaves by the British to North America, millions of theslave descendants have been born and atrophied in racist oppression. Today across the United States hundreds of thousands of African Americans languish in jails, many more live in grinding poverty. The enduring criminality of the British slave trade is in fact infinite and unquantifiable.

Even the fabled Dr Livingstone has been been proven to be a liar and butcher of Africans. As is so typical of his anglophile breed Livingstone concealed his own gory crimes by inditing other foreigners, in this case Arab slavers. This modus-operandi is a classic and enduring scam that has served British propaganda so well - the candy that coats British history and culture so thickly is in truth rank with the blood of perfidy.

Enduring spoils for the British: estimated profit for Britain amounted to 5% of the economy during the trade period. Allied to its anglophile superpower spawn, the United States of America.

Jolly good show eh what!

Victims of the estimated 3 million slaves British abducted from Africa

"The Victorian Englishman the fine flower of civilization" (Cecil Rhodes)

Dr Livingstone: a murderer and liar I presume

Britain still enjoys the wealth it made from raping Africa

BRITISH SLAVERS

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NORTH AMERICAN INDIANS 1620 - present day

Estimated deaths: min 15 million and counting - non-anglo estimates up to 100 million. Absolute extinction of tribes. Bio-terrorism - intentionally infecting tribes with disease.

Enduring criminality: the myth of scalping falsely attributed to Native Americans, was in fact a practice introduced by the British in search of head bounties. The myth of 'Indian' scalping and the savage connotations that goes with this has of course been propagandized in anglophile media most notably Hollywood Westerns. The British are experts in demonizing their victims; hence their genocidal success.

The Average British Imperialist - Murderous Poltroon

As with Canadian, Australian and New Zealand surviving indigenous populations, American Indian communities are ravaged with drugs, alcohol and despair.

Absolute extinction of tribes.

"One of the generals...Sheridan said: that the bison hunters had done more to control the American Indian than all the Calvary put together. We basically starved a lot of American Indians out - those that we didn't kill instantly with smallpox and measles. We stole this continent from other people. We just took it" (Dr Eric Pianka, St Edwards University Transcript 6 April 2006).

Enduring spoils for the British: as with the African slave trade, British spawn (descendants) dispossessed Native Americans of their land to eventually seize and annex all fertile territory including the oil rich southern States. In spite of the American Revolution the British reconciled with their Americanized spawn to continue the resource pillaging of the indigenous world until the present.

"The only good Indian is a dead Indian" General Phillip Sheridan

Trail of Tears or forced march under "Indian Removal Act"

killed some 5000 Indians

According to anglophile media, the savages were always the "Redskins"!

Who scalped who? British invaders paid bounties for Indian scalps

Moral cowardice and denialism goes hand in hand

with anglophile historians

gloating over butchered Native Americans

British Germ Warfare

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KENYA 1890 - 1963

Estimated deaths: min 30 000 and counting.

Enduring criminality: post-independent Kenya distressed with internal conflict. Introduced diseases by British ravage Kenyan population

Enduring spoils for the British: many anglo spawn colonists still own and farm fertile lands maintaining strong links with their mother country Britain. British meddling in Kenyan affairs continues.

Imperialism is the theory, colonialism the practice.

The British committed unspeakable atrocities against Kenyan children

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History is often invented / colonized by the 'victors' but truth cant be destroyed.

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ZIMBABWE (formerly Rhodesia or Southern Rhodesia) 1890 -1980

Estimated deaths: unknown min 10 000 from atrophic consequences of British colonization.

Enduring criminality: post independent Zimbabwe plagued by British meddling and sabotage causing great hardship. For the last decade or so Britain, led by its BBC and affiliated anglo media, has engaged in an almost farcical demonizing campaign against Robert Mugabe and Zimbabwe in general. Readers will recall hysterical anglo media streams of wheelbarrows of Zimbabwean dollars required to purchase a loaf of bread or toilet paper in downtown Harare. This propaganda was followed up with the apocalyptic projections of a cholera epidemic. None of these campaigns succeeded in 'toppling' Mugabe...yet. Again its interesting to note the modus operandi of the British in demonizing their victim nations both former and current, and how the corporate media along with 'academia' reinforce this strategy.

Enduring spoils for the British: Up until recently most fertile land owned by anglo farmers with strong links to their mother country Britain.

anglophile media furiously peddled these often staged images in an effort to shame Mugabe for his stand against anglo / british farmers who 'owned' 90% of fertile Zimbabwe land

"Britain is still complacently ignoring its gory cruelties of its empire"

(Maria Misra 2002

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SIERRA LEONE 1787 - 1961

Estimated deaths: min 150 000 and counting mainly attributed to post-independent conflict and blood diamonds

Enduring criminality: legacy of British colonization and continued imperialist meddling produced horrific conflict. The hyenas of British imperialism continue to stalk impoverished and chaotic African nations waiting to pounce on opportunities brought about from relentless conlfict ridden turmoil.

Enduring spoils for the British: blood diamonds and geo-politics

divide and conquer - the perrenial British way

British imperialist hyenas still stalk bloodied Africa for plunder

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NIGERIA 1900- 1960

Estimated deaths: min 1 million from internal conflicts created & or exacerbated by British

Enduring criminality: Nigerian economy warped in favour of anglo oil production. Independent Nigerian nation defiled and exploited by British sabotage and exploitation. Millions of Nigerians displaced from internal conflict.

Enduring spoils for the British: anglo-american dominance of oil and resources.

the pestilence of British imperialism kills long after

the 'Kings African Rifles' sail home

There's a reason why the world today is a wreck

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UGANDA 1884 - 1962

Estimated deaths: min 1 million from internal conflicts created & or exacerbated by British and counting.

Enduring criminality: ongoing conflict and atrocities largely perpetuated by Idi Amin and the Lords Resistance Army. The LRA leader Joseph Kony is currently being sought the International Criminal Court for crimes against humanity. These modern day conflicts are largely traced to the favorite British strategy of 'divide and conquer' ie. the creation of rival indigenous kingdoms within the colony. The ferocious and diseased legacy of Anglican missionaries who compulsively accompanied their secular imperialist brethren can be sourced to the deranged and diabolical Christian inspired crimes attributed to Kony.

Enduring spoils for the British: blood diamonds, arms trafficking and geo-politics

the fate of these Ugandan children sealed long ago

when Africa was infested with the British

Joseph Kony - Christian fundamentalist & wanted by ICC for crimes against humanity was anglicized and thus created by British imperialists & missionaries

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SUDAN 1898 - 1956

Estimated deaths: min 2 million (a very conservative estimate)

Enduring criminality: famine, internal conflict and standard butchery so typical of former British African colonies. Millions of Sudanese displaced in camps living harrowing existences. The devastating war between north and south Sudan again an inextricable consequence of British notorious manipulation and vandalism of indigenous tribes, ethnics, religions, resources and power. Millions of Africans have perished and been slaughtered in a 'post-imperialist' world where the British quitted their colonies heavily poisoned with ethnic and tribal division, rivalry, famine and desperation. Nicholas Dirks explains in Castes of Mind: Colonialism and the Making of Modern India how the British re-caste and re-tribalised their indigenous victims causing irreversible cultural chaos. In Saviors and Survivors: Darfur, Politics, and the War on Terror (2009), Mahmood Mamdani reveals how British imperialists "tribalised" Dafur which in turn became the future source for ferocious conflict.

Across Africa and the world the British perpetrated acts of cultural vandalism producing horrific and permanent consequences for the victim nations. In this regard the British remain unmatched in their sheer savagery and complicity in enduring genocides brought about by famine and conflict.

Enduring spoils for the British: arms sales and geo-political exploitation. Anglo-American corps competing with China for oil

the vulture of British imperialism that caused

this harrowing evil was not pictured

enduring legacy of British imperialism in Africa -

GENOCIDAL FAMINE!

Across Africa and the Indigenous world, the British perpetrated devastating acts of

cultural vandalism producing eternal consequences for their victim nations.

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http://subversify.com/2011/07/29/three-episodes-in-the-criminal-history-of-the-british-empire/

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SOMALIA 1941 -1960

Estimated deaths: min 2.5 million and counting.

Enduring criminality: Since the departure of imperialist Britain in the 1960s famine, war and displacement of millions of Somalis has and continues to wrack Somalia. The historic imperialist grab for Somalia is chaotic.The Italians and French each sought to own a piece of the Somalia pie, with the Italians maintaining a fascist hold until the mother of all predators Britain shooed them away. After Britian had its way with Somalia, it left her in a fractured, bloodied and utterly ruined state. Since 1995 an estmated 1 000 000 Somalis have died from conflict alone.

Enduring spoils for the British: geo-politics, arms trading, and conceited finger-pointing (as with all its ruined and raped African imperialist conquests, the supremely hyprocritical and cunning British continue to take great delight in pointing the finger at their crippled former colonies alluding to the [inferior] race of their victims as the cause of their current grief.) It is important to understand the significance of this racist anglo culture of finger-pointing at the 'darkies'. Essentially this finger-pointing serves (1) to deflect the culpability of British imperialism for the upheavals in former African colonies; (2) elevates the civilisation of the British above the 'inferior' victim nations through contrasting social, political and economic conditions and; (3) perpetuates the ludicrous myth that British subjugation of the 'darkies' was proper because "look at the savages now since Britian gave them independence".

enduring legacy of British imperialism in Africa - GENOCIDAL FAMINE!

Africa has been hemorrhaging ever since the British first plundered her

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CANADIAN INDIGENOUS NATIONS 1629 (Scottish invasion) then 1763 to present

Estimated deaths: at least 1 million attributed largely to disease introduced by colonists and counting. Post-colonization until present innumerable number of Canadian Indigenous peoples atrophied through racism, oppression and standard British viciousness. As with Australian Aborigines the British spawn (affectionately called Settlers) in Canada, formerly known as British North America, applied numerous methods in wiping out the indigenous population including mass sterilisation, stealing indigenous children (forced assimilation) and intentionally infecting tribes with disease.

Enduring criminality: continued exploitation and devastation of Indigenous Canadians. Many Canadian tribes literally on their knees from the introduced ravages of drugs and alcohol. Continued British spawn occupancy of stolen lands.

Enduring spoils for the British: With the exception of the Francophile 'concession' of Quebec, the British remain firmly in possession of Canada, a Commonwealth or neo-imperialist nation.

Canadian indigenous children ripped from tribes

being civilised by British-Canada

Canadian Indian being civilised

with small pox introduced by the British

Worlds Worst Mass Murderer

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AUSTRALIAN ABORIGINES 1788 - present

Estimated deaths: min 20 000 slaughtered plus 60 000 poisoned / disease infected and counting. Genocide of Tasmanian tribes. An accurate murder estimate of Indigenous Australians by the British imperialists and later their 'settler' Anglo-Celtic spawn remains difficult to source. British invaders literally started hunting "Blacks" within days of the Botany Bay landing (1788), and up until 1970s continued through Anglo-Celtic descendants "[censored]-shoots' and "boong bashing" across Australia. Aborigines were regarded as little more than fauna and flora or native pests to be eradicated to make way for the "fine flower of civilization". Records therefore of massacres along with actual censuses of the Aboriginal population were near non-existent up until the middle of the 20th century.

Australia's Constitution is the only one in the world that allows for

racist discrimination against people - Indigenous Australians.

The prevailing Constitution of Australia, a vile document authored by British imperialists in 1901, is the only Constitutional document in the world that allows for racist discrimination against a group of people.

Britain's genocidal ambition in Australia
was to butcher the 'Natives' and chain the survivors into extinction.

The unspeakable savagery the British and their Anglo-Celtic Australian spawn unleashed upon Aboriginal Australia included the 'sport' of burying Aboriginal babies and children up to their necksand then kicking the heads until decapitation. Up until 1970s (in the outback 1980s) Anglo Australian motorists could intentionally run down 'Blacks' drunk or sober with impunity.

Hundreds of Aborigines continue to commit suicide in jails and police lock-ups across Australia. Many of these 'suicides' are in fact homicides

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A descendant of the vicious slaver John Forrest,

is now a mining billionaire (Andrew Twiggy Forrest).

This is an example of how the spawn of the vile British invaders

are today enriched by the genocidal crimes of the past.

Enduring criminality: Thousands of Aboriginal children (Stolen Generations) ripped from tribes and parents in a nazi type effort to breed out aboriginality. This genocidal campaign continued up to the 1970s, consequently many 1000s of Aboriginal Australian survivors are today still traumatized. A national apology was belatedly given in 2008 by the then Prime Minister Kevin Rudd. Even this token gesture outraged many Anglo-Celtic Australians including former Prime Minister John Winston Howard who refused to endorse the apology. This moral poltroon argued 'guilt is not hereditary'.

British-Australians 'categorized' Indigenous Australians as part of the Fauna and Flora Act,
meaning British 'Settlers' could butcher Blacks with impunity as with the wildlife.

Aboriginal life expectancy is the world's worst. Aborigines are disproportionally imprisoned and hospitalized. As with American and Canadian Indigenous nations, Aboriginal communities are ravaged by drugs and alcohol including solvent abuse i.e. "petrol and glue sniffing". Suicide among the Aboriginal communities, particularly in remote areas is epidemic. The general diet of Aborigines has been spoilt by the British invasion with the consequence many Indigenous Australians suffer renal and diabetic conditions at epidemic proportions. The sum total of these British made and or introduced blights to the Aboriginal and Torre Straits nations amount to genocide and horrific subjugation for the survivors.

It took the British little under 200 years to bring a 50 000 year old
civilization to the brink of absolute genocide

Aboriginal art, icons and culture has been hijacked by the Australian Government and tourist industry which promotes white Australia to an ignorant foreign world. Gooey eyed foreign tourists pour into Australia every day utterly oblivious to the "Great Australian Silence" or more accurately the Great Anglophile Silence. This is a standard ploy of British imperialism stripping their victim nations of everything of value, including the very culture, along with the right to protest their misery. On this last point, former Prime Minister John Howard is testament to this form of perfidy particular to the anglophile breed. Howard in his deranged adulation for his mother country, Britain, was adamant throughout the 10 years he ruled Australia, that 'white' Australia had nothing to apologize for. This 'belief' was based on the very warped cowardly logic the unconscionable cruelties meted out to Indigenous Australia were (1) perpetrated by an older generation of Anglo-Celtic Australians (or the much preferred misnomer 'Europeans') and thus modern white Australia is blameless, and (2) the cruelties such as the mass abduction and racist indoctrination of Indigenous children was done with good intentions i.e. to assimilate the "Black savages" into the fine flower of British culture. Obscene anglophile Howard to date refuses to endorse the apology - only an anglophile could behave in such a utterly contemptible manner and still retain 'credibility' among his peers.

Murdering and brutalising Aboriginal Australians was an integral characteristic
of being a 'dinki-di' anglophile Aussie.

In addition to decapitating black babies by kicking, the British colonizers took delight in shooting pregnant Aboriginal women - here's a verbatim description by a much respected Aboriginal Elder on this unbelievable viciousness: "stories from aboriginal oral histories regarding pregnant mothers hiding in trees only to be found then shot. All that could be heard was the rustle of the leaves and branches as the aborted babies fell from their mothers" .

Every 26 January, Anglo-Australians shamelessly celebrate the 1788 invasion
and grand theft of Australia. Meanwhile victim Indigenous Australians
are forced to witness this gross insult to injury every year.

In 1956 the British in collusion with their Anglo-Celtic Australian spawn conducted nuclear weapons testing at Maralinga South Australia, poisoning the homeland and the people of the Maralinga Tjarutja tribe.

Most tourists to Australia have little or no understanding

of the genocidal British imperialistic history of Australia thus perpetuating

the grief of Indigenous Australians through their sheer ignorance

Anglophile racism against Indigenous Australians has been so relentless, shameless and ghastly that as late as 1984, Australia's richest anglophile Lang Hancock along with several of his politician pals went on TV to lobby for a genocidal program to sterilize the Aborigines - through "herding up the savages into the outback and poisoning their water supply". Instead of being condemned and imprisoned, Hancock was applauded by mainstream anglophile Australia.This was in 1984 and the actual interview can be viewed on YouTube!

Massacres of Aboriginal Tribes by British 'Settlers' was so commonplace,

an entire book was authored to detail the atrocities.

Most contemporary Anglophile spun literature / history on the British invasion and seizure of Australia is criminally distorted, revised, concealed, minimized and diffused. A subtle though powerful semantic deception Anglo-Celtic historians and hacks persistently and increasingly employ is to substitute the words Britain or British etc with Europe or European when describing the colonization and slaughter of Indigenous Australia. This word scam pervades most mainstream online articles, including Wikipedia pages. It is a potent psychological swindle because the replacement noun - Europe - hoodwinks the typical reader into believing Britain's culpability is shared with and subsumed into the generic Europe. This could not be further from the truth, especially so for Anglo Australia which constitutionally is still ruled by the British queen. As of 2010 the Prime Minister of Australia is the British immigrant Julia Gillard. Even Gillard's political opposite Tony Abbott is British born.

UPDATED: British born Tony Abbott is the PM of Australia and is particularly reviled by Indigenous Australians. No doubt Abbott's biggest personal struggle will be the ongoing concealment of his true racist persona from the public. Occasionally Abbott's mask slides revealing the toxic anglophile racism raging beneath a facade of anglophile civility.

The smiling anglophile sadist - the British were never happier

when they were maiming and murdering Indigenous peoples

The invasion and decimation of Aboriginal Australia was and is entirely a British affair, and in spite of the self-serving garbage penned by conniving morally coward Anglo-Celtic hacks, 'Europe' had nothing to do with this massive and ongoing imperial crime. Another favorite misnomer is the term 'settler' in place of the correct noun invader or to a lesser extent coloniser. Wikipedia pages on black and white Australia, largely authored by Anglo Australians, compulsively use the sly phrases settler and settlements, Europe and European. These sneak semantics serve to perpetuate the grief and oppression of Indigenous Australia because the deception diffuses and dilutes the reality of the enormous and enduring crime of genocide inflicted by Britain and her Anglo-Celtic Australian 'colonial' spawn.

The upshot of Britain's invasion of black Australia is within a space of 200 years the British and their Anglo-Celtic spawn 'settlers' managed to devastate a 50 000 year old Aboriginal culture. In 2009 the conditions for many Aboriginal groups was so dreadful, Aborigines petitioned the United Nations for Refugee Status in their own country!

When the British & spawn Anglo-Celtic 'settlers' weren't decapitating

Aborigines they were putting them in chains

Enduring spoils for the British: On invading Australia in 1788 the British seized the entire continent along with the Tasmanian island to eventually peddle the loathsome lie of Terra Nullius - Empty Land. Thousands of Anglo-Celtic spawn continue to enrich themselves by plundering the bounty of indigenous gas and rock wealth, including diamond and gold deposits, in the Outback. Millions of ignorant and idiotic 'foreign' tourists continue to pour into Australia supporting the rugged Aussie Outback folklore myth, blissfully unaware of the ceaseless genocide of the Aborigines.

Australia remains the first choice 'emigrant' destination for millions of British citizens, usually the worst of their society, including murderers and child molesters. A nauseating irony of the endless swamping of British immigration into Australia is the fact many of these immigrants bring with them their racist rhodesian beliefs to exacerbate the racist oppression of Indigenous Australia.

Another increasingly large immigrant group is the 'white South Afrikaner'. This comes as little surprise as racist Australia must resemble the glory days of apartheid for the Afrikaner, hence their passion for migrating to Australia where they can return their boots onto the nape of the Kauffer - i.e. Black Man.

After murdering Aborigines, the British 'settler'

would sell the skull to British museums

British managed to devastate a 50 000 year old culture

in less than 200 years

stolen aboriginal children offered for white adoption

stolen aboriginal children being inspected

like cattle by the british-australian establishment

The scrubs are gone, the hunting and the laughter.

The eagle is gone, the emu and the kangaroo are gone from this place.

The bora ring is gone.

The corroboree is gone.

And we are going.

Oodgeroo Noonuccal: Aboriginal Australian Poet

"Lets herd up all the aborigines and poison

their water supply with a sterilization chemical"

(Lang Hancock and various Australian politicians 1984)

British Anglo-Celtic Spawn & Genocide

THE GENOCIDE CONTINUES

Excellent site for REAL Australian history http://treatyrepublic.net/

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NEW ZEALAND (AOTEAROA) MAORIS 1832 - present

Estimated deaths: 60 000 includes inter-tribal wars linked to British corruption of Maori culture & food economy - Potato Wars - and the introduction and supply of guns - The Musket Wars.

Enduring criminality: British introduced disease, feral animals, alcohol and drugs, and alien food products. British introduced guns which led to a massive increase in inter-tribal warfare and massacres. Consequently, at least half of the Maori population was at one time post colonization wiped from the face of earth. The only 'mitigating factor' of the Maori subjugation by British imperialists (in comparison to the standard perfidy meted out to other 'colonized' Indigenous groups) was the Treaty of Waitangi. A Treaty unsurprisingly abused and dishonored by consecutive British spawned New Zealand governments. The Treaty itself is regarded by some Maoris as a meaningless fraud perpetuated by the British invaders. New Zealand's anthem is the official "god save the queen" and as with its subjugated neighbor Australia remains a constitutional monarchy.

Enduring spoils for the British: the seizure of the two New Zealand islands North and South and its economic wealth, including agriculture, mining, fishing and forestry.

The biggest fraud Britain perpetuates against humanity, is innocence

The British also collected Maori Heads

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FIJI ISLANDS 1874 - 1970

Estimated deaths: min 50 000 (or a third of population) mainly attributed to introduction of disease -measles by the British and their Anglo-Celtic spawn in Sydney Australia. In 1875 a vessel carrying Fijian tribal royalty was infected with measles in a 'commissioned' visit to Sydney, an imperial colony of Britain. This blighted vessel was 'knowingly' sent back to Fiji without the Yellow Flag.

Unspecified deaths from 1876 Fijian rebellion against the British invaders. The rebellion and genocidal epidermic of measles are highly unlikely to be coincidence.

Enduring criminality: the permanent distortion of the indigenous population with the British 'importation' (blackbirding) of some 60 000 indentured laborers from India and South East Asia to slave on British plantations. This non-indigenous population now accounts for 38% of the Fijian population. Among other disruptions this British made alien demographic has caused, is the political upheavals beginning with Rabuka's 1987 coup against ethnic dominant Indian rule. Political upheavals continue to beleaguer Fiji and are mainly sourced to Australian, New Zealand (Anglo-Celtic spawn) and British meddling to manipulate ethnic Indian control of the islands. Logically ethnic Indian Fijians remain allied to their former master as both want the same thing - control of Fiji and her resources.

Enduring spoils for the British: Fiji remains part of the neo-imperialist group of Commonwealth countries. Fiji's membership to this vainglorious mutation of British imperialism perpetuates Britain's continued ability to exploit, infiltrate and damage the indigenous world under the guise of 'common wealth'. Cow dung is still dung by any other name. Fiji remains suspended from the Commonwealth - the average Fijian must be devastated, no more genuflecting before the crown.

British germ warfare...again!

Ethnic Indian Fijians have become willing pawns in an enduring plot by

British Anglo-Celtic spawn in Australia and New Zealand to recolonize Fiji.

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BRITISH INDIA RAJ 1858 - 1947

Estimated deaths: min 100 million includes the Bengal famine which claimed a minimum of 5 million based on corrupt British sources only. Indian or non-Anglo sources, logically more reliably, record 14 million. The 100 million figure does not include (a) the bloody chaos caused by the 1947 Partition estimated to be 1 million (b) the ensuing violence and disaster that continues to beset both Pakistan and Bangladesh. Britain literally tore asunder the Indian sub-continent during its reign of imperial terror, enslaving and starving millions for its vampiric empire. The British made famines including the 2 that devastated Bengal, were to be called the "Late Victorian Holocaust".

The 100 million figure is regarded as an extreme under-estimation by some non-anglo sources.

Special Note: British imperialists cultivated the bulk of the opium in Bengal they pushed on to China in the 19th century. The opium ravaged Chinese civilization, causing enormous despair and death. This drug-pushing was Britain's way of smashing open the Chinese tea market.

Enduring criminality: In spite of the revisionism by that vile anglophile, Niall Ferguson, Indian chaos and appalling poverty is inextricably linked to the plunder and pillage by the British Raj. Britain imperialism savaged the food economy and geo-politics of the India sub-continent. Indigenous tribes and ancient caste systems were vandalized and re-engineered by British imperialists to leverage greater domination of the population. British meddling gave birth to the splinter 'nations' of Pakistan and Bangladesh, both regions wracked with perennial instability and desperation. Pakistan has become an eternal enemy of its 'birth mother' India. Motivated by a mutual "furnace of animosity" both nations have developed weapons of mass destruction.

An estimated 61 million Indians survive in urban slums, while in the rural areas, 300 million are mired in the tyranny of poverty. Noam Chomsky points out: "India is still devastated by the effects of British colonialism..."(How the World Works, 2011).

Enduring spoils for the British: Nineteenth and twentieth century British economy was hugely supported by the rapacious crimes of the British Raj. The profit Britain flogged from India was reinvested into other imperial and iniquitous ventures, including the numerous invasions into African nations.

India remains part of the neo-imperialist group of Commonwealth countries. India's membership to this vainglorious mutation of British imperialism perpetuates Britain's continued ability to exploit, infiltrate and damage the indigenous world under the guise of 'common wealth'. Cow dung is still dung by any other name.

The eternal dispute, tension and instability between the partitioned Pakistan and India, a geo-political-religious fissure created by British imperialism, provides Britain exploitative opportunities in the form of arm sales and general chicanery.

Bangladesh, (formerly Bengal) was ruthlessly plundered by the British who forced the local population to grow opium crops for British exports, while devastating the local food economy causing the so-called late Victorian Holocaust when 5 million Bengalese starved to death. Non-anglophile historians list the famine toll much higher into the 100s of millions. Unsurprisingly these ghastly crimes perpetrated by the British are completely ignored in all forms of mainstream media, including education curriculums.

Bengalese being civilized by the British

"I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion" Churchill

The wonderful legacy of British imperialism

The vulture of British imperialism is not pictured

The British never really renounced slavery

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SRI LANKA / CEYLON 1802 - 1948

Estimated deaths: unspecified min 500 000 including the entire Uva region male population above the age of 18 years in revenge for resistance against British imperialist occupation. The 1818 Uva-Wellassa Uprising also know as the Great Rebellion and the Madulla Massacre resulted in multiple atrocities against Sri Lankans by British imperialists, including razing and annihilation of villages. At one point during the resistance, British imperialist considered a plan to "exterminate" the entire Kandyan population. Instead the British made do with killing at least one male member from each Kandyan family.

The kill figure does include the Tamil Eelam independence struggle which saw at least 100 000 killed and 1000s more displaced. This internal rupture is a direct consequence of the geo-political vandalism perpetrated by British imperialism across India / Asia. Existing tribal and clan structures were smashed and corrupted by the British invaders with the principal agenda of creating discord and rivalry to weaken the indigenous groups while strengthening the imperialist stranglehold.

Enduring criminality: Poverty and social inequity continues to ravage Sri Lanka. The Tamil independence struggle saw many thousands killed and many more displaced and subject to repression.

Sri Lanka is a member State of the Commonwealth, an venal neo-imperialist entity serving to prolong the menace of British skulduggery and dominance on the international stage.

Enduring spoils for the British: Once the British evicted their imperialist Dutch predecessor, and in turn slaughtered the rebellious Kandyan people, they foisted coffee and tea crops on Sri Lankan land. These plantations proved successful, further enriching the imperialist British orgre. In order to enslave the population to toil on the plantations, British Ceylon anglicized a select group of Sri Lankans to oversee the plantations and the laborers.

The trigger was pulled by a Sri Lankan,

but the gun was loaded by British imperialism

The British never really renounced slavery

Typically the British recruited local 'chiefs'

to enslave the indigenous masses

Butchering life was second nature to the British

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CHINESE OPIUM WARS 1839 - 1842 (First Opium War), 1856 - 1860 (Second Opium War).

Estimated deaths: 10 million Chinese became addicted to the 100 000s of tonnes of opium trafficked by Britain into a fractured and defenseless China. Millions of casualties are attributed to Chinese resistance and addiction to the opium scourge imposed by the British. The Taiping Rebellion which followed the"humiliating Treaty of Nanking" saw an estimated 30 million Chinese die. This internal rupture was caused by an anglicized messianic-complex Hong Xiuquan and according to various sources the Taiping Rebellion is causally linked to the fallout from the toxic opium trade inflicted by the British.

Total deaths 30 million.

Much of the opium pushed onto China, typically traded for tea in place of silver, was sourced from the British Raj, where the British had enslaved the local population in poppy, tea and coffee plantations. Britain literally made a killing by hooking the Chinese on opium and quickly expanded its drug trafficking throughout China. Conscious of the terrible social damage opium was causing her people, China attempted to stop the British dope trade, by seizing and destroying a shipment leading to the so-called Opium Wars. With the aid of European collaborators, in particular the French, a traditional partner in crime, the Chinese were defeated in both 'wars' and forced to sign the Treaty of Nanking which essentially gave the British open slather to further poison the Chinese with narcotics. British reprisals against Chinese resistance to their cancerous dope trade were horrific as the Morning Herald explained "a more horrible or revolting crime than this bombardment of Canton has never been committed in the worst ages of barbaric darkness."

In effect Britain was the worlds largest drug trafficker, literally hooking an entire nation on drugs, lauding the crime as a glorious act of "free trade", as Noam Chomsky explains: "...when the British government compelled China to open its doors to opium from British India, sanctimoniously pleading the virtues of free-trade as they forcibly imposed large scale drug addiction on China" (How the World Works, 2011).

Enduring criminality: Chinese addiction, an estimated 70 million "junkies", persisted long after the British and their predator European collaborators were given chase in the Boxer Rebellion. The sum total of Britain's toxic pillaging of China left her severely weak and thus vulnerable by the time she declared herself a Republic in 1912. This made a fragile China easy pickings for imperial Japan, which engaged in an orgy of monstrous gory violence in the Rape of Nanking.

Enduring spoils for the British: along with the commodity of tea grown by slaves or indentured laborers, the opium drug trade largely funded British imperialism, financing many invasions into indigenous nations across the globe. Profits from the drug trade allowed Britain to expand and improve its naval fleet ensuring Britain maintained its so-called supreme advantage on the high seas.

British dope trade devastated China

Opium became a new currency of the British Empire

Gloating British colonialists beheading Chinese in Hong Kong

The Boxer Rebellion against imperialism failed

and more Chinese were butchered

The perfidious British even forced little Oriental women

to 'hump' their fetid carcasses across the slave-yards of the Empire.

The queen of drug trafficking, queen Victoria

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PARTITION OF PALESTINE & CREATION OF ISRAEL 1916 (Sykes-Picot Agreement), 1917 (Balfour Declaration) 1922 (League of Nations Edict) 1947 (UN Partition) then Israeli Occupation to the Present

Background: the historic background of British meddling in the Middle-East and Palestine is complex. The definitive starting point of the British occupation is best signified by the 1916 Sykes-Picot Agreement when the British and French carved up the Middle-East for their respective imperialist gains to counter the Ottomans. British 'rule' over Palestine was latter formalized in 1922 by the League of Nations as the British Mandate for Palestine. Meanwhile Zionist 'leaders' in London, personified by Rothschild lobbied the British imperial government to support in principle a Jewish State in Palestine. Benjamin Freedman, an ex-Zionist based in the United States explained how the British traded Palestine with Zionists in return for the Zionists manipulating America into entering WW1 and deploying against Germany. As with any person who dares criticizes and or exposes the skulduggery of Zionism, the Jewish Freedman was ironically labeled an anti-semite and is mostly ignored by establishment academia and historians.

Protected by British imperial forces European Jews poured into Palestine to essentially occupy the land by proxy until the United Nations issued its now infamous Partition declaration in 1947. By 1947 again with the aid of British imperial forces, the Zionist population in Palestine steadily increased. This Anglo-Zionist meddling in the Middle-East has given birth to relentless conflict, grief and death. The original British imperialist genesis for the ongoing chaos and butchery in the Middle-East is overlooked by most contemporary observers, including 'academics'. Such wanton neglect of history serves only to conceal another enormous crime perpetrated by Britain, the consequences of which are felt everywhere, most gruesomely in the 9-11 attacks in New York City when alleged Islamic terrorists sympathetic to the Palestine cause hijacked 4 commercial jetliners.

Estimated deaths: Since 1967 - 500 000 Palestinians excludes the Jaffa uprising and British counter-attack

Enduring criminality: millions of Palestinians are today refugees or living in constant fear in being bombed by Israeli warplanes, and abducted by IDF.

Enduring spoils for the British: weapons sales to Israel and Arab nations eternally embroiled in the Palestinian conflict. The regional destabilization effects of the Palestinian occupation immensely benefits Britain, which profits from the chaos and desperation violence produces. Divide, conquer and exploit has long been Britain's trademark vice that has hemorrhaged so many Indigenous Nations.

Palestinian child victim of Israeli air attacks

Israeli children happily learning how to kill Palestinians

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Palestinian being abducted by IDF

British Zionists traded Palestine for American involvement in WW1

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the alleged original source of British partitioning of Palestine

as with the other anglo fable Livingstone, Lawrence was a fraud,

ultimately betraying the Arabs for imperial Britain

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BURMA (MYANMAR) 1824 -1948 (subsumed into British India until 1935)

Estimated deaths:

Enduring criminality:

Enduring spoils for the British:

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IRELAND 1845 - 1852 (famine) 1880s to present (independence)

Estimated deaths: 1 million (Potato Famine) plus 1000s (independence struggle).

Enduring criminality: In the 19th century Irish Catholics were regarded as little more than landless sheep by their English 'lords', consequently a million died from starvation and disease, a period identified as the Great Irish Famine.

Enduring spoils for the British: continued possession of Ireland and all the strategic and economic spoils that go with the possession.

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References:

http://mises.org/daily/2978

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INDONESIA 1811 - 1816 AND 1945 -1946 (including Anglo-Australian Regiments).

Estimated deaths

Enduring criminality

Enduring spoils for the British

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MALAYSIA 1819 - 1963

Estimated deaths:

Enduring criminality:

Enduring spoils for the British:

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SOUTH AFRICA ZULU NATION & (BOERS) INVENT CONCENTRATION CAMP 1899 -1902

Estimated deaths:

Enduring criminality:

Enduring spoils for the British:

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THE FALKLANDS (ARGENTINA)

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Enduring criminality:

Enduring spoils for the British:

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CHILE 1973 - 1990

Estimated deaths

Enduring criminality

Enduring spoils for the British

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TAHITI 1769 – INTRODUCTION OF DISEASE BY COOK

Estimated deaths:

Enduring criminality:

Enduring spoils for the British:

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IRAN 1941 OPERATION COUNTENANCE

Estimated deaths:

Enduring criminality: Iranian parliamentary Speaker Ali Larijani explains: "decades of domineering moves by the British in Iran"

Enduring spoils for the British:

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the British have been subverting Iran for decades

Iranians explaining how it really is

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IRAQ

Estimated deaths:

Enduring criminality:

Enduring spoils for the British:

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NORTH YEMEN

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OMAN

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JAMAICA

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EGYPT (SUEZ CANAL)

Estimated deaths

Enduring criminality

Enduring spoils for the British

References:

http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/09/201192514364490977.html

Lord Palmerston declared that "no ideas of fairness [toward Egypt] ought to stand in the way of such great and paramount interests" of Britain as preserving its economic and political hegemony, expressing his "hate" for the "ignorant barbarian"

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Jara 1,153

Posted December 7, 2017

4 hours ago, daisycutter said:

well if you want to delude yourself that the holocaust was a christian inspired genocide then be my guest

Daisy - hmmm - I'm just shooting from the hip here - haven't really thought this through - but I'd have thought there's some truth in the claim that the holocaust was inspired by Christianity.

Jews had been persecuted by Christians for hundreds of years. Luther was a famous anti-semite, was he not?

What was the Jew's 'crime'? That they practised a religion other than Christianity.

Surely dogmatic Christianity was laying the groundwork for the persecution of the Jews for hundreds of years, a process which reached its apotheosis in the 1940s?

Of course I realise that there were decent people of every religion who were humane towards the persecuted, often at the cost of their own lives - Bonhoeffer, for example - but overall, the Church (like Dieter's Wermacht chaplains) did virtually nothing to halt the Holocaust. I remember reading a very convincing book - years ago - I think the author's name was Goldhagen - who demonstrated that the overall German population, and its institutions, including the Church, were complicit in the genocide. I was shocked by his accounts of the massacres in Poland and the Ukraine - carried out not just by SS, but often by regular soldiers. Maybe the perpetrators weren't doing it "in the name of" Christianity, but I suspect in some ways they were inspired by it - if nothing else, their religion taught them that those who followed other faiths were damned, inferior, cast into darkness - something which must have made killing them a lot easier.

nutbean 8,838

Posted December 7, 2017

15 hours ago, dieter said:

That's a rather glib copout, Nutbean.

I should have rolled my eyes when I typed it. It was directed at the farcical foreign policy of the expedient arming of groups to fight so called enemies only to have those same groups use the supplied weaponry against them.

dieter 3,325

Posted December 7, 2017

2 hours ago, nutbean said:

I should have rolled my eyes when I typed it. It was directed at the farcical foreign policy of the expedient arming of groups to fight so called enemies only to have those same groups use the supplied weaponry against them.

Sorry for responding so animatedly. Hamas and Al Quada are other examples. ISIS is the most cynical though, I believe.

dieter 3,325

Posted December 7, 2017

Posted December 7, 2017 (edited)

12 hours ago, Jara said:

Of course I realise that there were decent people of every religion who were humane towards the persecuted, often at the cost of their own lives - Bonhoeffer, for example - but overall, the Church (like Dieter's Wermacht chaplains) did virtually nothing to halt the Holocaust. I remember reading a very convincing book - years ago - I think the author's name was Goldhagen - who demonstrated that the overall German population, and its institutions, including the Church, were complicit in the genocide. I was shocked by his accounts of the massacres in Poland and the Ukraine - carried out not just by SS, but often by regular soldiers. Maybe the perpetrators weren't doing it "in the name of" Christianity, but I suspect in some ways they were inspired by it - if nothing else, their religion taught them that those who followed other faiths were damned, inferior, cast into darkness - something which must have made killing them a lot easier

By the way, Goldhagen's book contains a lot of anti German venom and has been severely criticized, Browning and Hillberg among the chief critics.

'Browning argued differently. Rather than seeking one cause, he emphasized a variety of factors that influenced people. In the case of Reserve Police Battalion 101, he found that these men were mostly average, middle aged German men, largely from Hamburg. They were not extensively indoctrinated, nor were they terribly receptive to that which they received. Some were initially anxious, even uneasy, with the task they were set out to do; but they carried it out nonetheless.

They described how they feared being viewed as weak by their peers, as not being able to do the tough job they were given. Alcoholism was extensive, consumption before or after killings being common; alcohol does desensitize, so it served as a coping mechanism, CLEARLY demonstrating that these men were not subconscious, rampant anti-Semites, but 'Ordinary Men'. The more they killed, the more routine and less exceptional these acts became, leading the killings to become almost 'banal'. They killed both Poles AND Jews, so they were clearly not solely driven to kill by a hatred of Jews.

Goldhagen's thesis is deeply flawed, and has been attacked and largely dismantled by historians and psychologists. Notably Raul Hilberg, practically the godfather of Holocaust Studies, dismissed 'Hitler's Willing Executioners' as 'totally wrong'.

And, for the record. my father deserted the German army in 1944 in Italy. He was lucky to have been able to surrender to a British officer rather than being killed by either Italian partisans or the German army.

He was in a POW camp in Port Said until 1947. When he and his fellow prisoners were shown the footage of the labour camps where the eastern Europen Jews were held they believed it was propaganda, akin to the first WW charge that Germans bayoneted babies in Belgium.

However, my father did once come across a soldier who had served in the Eastern Front for most of the war - my father was wounded on the way to Stalingrad and recovered in Germany and was then sent to Bordeaux and Italy - who said if the Germans lost the war some very unsavoury things would come to light.

In other words - and this was corroborated by the Romanian father of a Jewish friend who worked as slave labour for a Wermacht unit - German soldiers were by and large not involved in killing Jews.

The notion that they were comes from Hollywood, as did the 'soap and lampshades' myth.

Also, just for the record, my grandmother lived within two kilometres of Bergen Belsen. Neither she or any of her neighbours had any inkling about what happened there.

Edited December 7, 2017 by dieter

dieter 3,325

Posted December 8, 2017

1 hour ago, dieter said:

By the way, Goldhagen's book contains a lot of anti German venom and has been severely criticized, Browning and Hillberg among the chief critics.

'Browning argued differently. Rather than seeking one cause, he emphasized a variety of factors that influenced people. In the case of Reserve Police Battalion 101, he found that these men were mostly average, middle aged German men, largely from Hamburg. They were not extensively indoctrinated, nor were they terribly receptive to that which they received. Some were initially anxious, even uneasy, with the task they were set out to do; but they carried it out nonetheless.

They described how they feared being viewed as weak by their peers, as not being able to do the tough job they were given. Alcoholism was extensive, consumption before or after killings being common; alcohol does desensitize, so it served as a coping mechanism, CLEARLY demonstrating that these men were not subconscious, rampant anti-Semites, but 'Ordinary Men'. The more they killed, the more routine and less exceptional these acts became, leading the killings to become almost 'banal'. They killed both Poles AND Jews, so they were clearly not solely driven to kill by a hatred of Jews.

Goldhagen's thesis is deeply flawed, and has been attacked and largely dismantled by historians and psychologists. Notably Raul Hilberg, practically the godfather of Holocaust Studies, dismissed 'Hitler's Willing Executioners' as 'totally wrong'.

And, for the record. my father deserted the German army in 1944 in Italy. He was lucky to have been able to surrender to a British officer rather than being killed by either Italian partisans or the German army.

He was in a POW camp in Port Said until 1947. When he and his fellow prisoners were shown the footage of the labour camps where the eastern Europen Jews were held they believed it was propaganda, akin to the first WW charge that Germans bayoneted babies in Belgium.

However, my father did once come across a soldier who had served in the Eastern Front for most of the war - my father was wounded on the way to Stalingrad and recovered in Germany and was then sent to Bordeaux and Italy - who said if the Germans lost the war some very unsavoury things would come to light.

In other words - and this was corroborated by the Romanian father of a Jewish friend who worked as slave labour for a Wermacht unit - German soldiers were by and large not involved in killing Jews.

The notion that they were comes from Hollywood, as did the 'soap and lampshades' myth.

Also, just for the record, my grandmother lived within two kilometres of Bergen Belsen. Neither she or any of her neighbours had any inkling about what happened there.

Further to this:

The Evil of Banality[edit]

In 1992, the American historian Christopher Browning published a book titled Ordinary Men about the Reserve Police Battalion 101, which had been used in 1942 to massacre and round up Jews for deportation to the Nazi death camps in German-occupied Poland. The conclusion of the book, which was much influenced by the Milgram experiment on obedience, was that the men of Unit 101 were not demons or Nazi fanatics but ordinary middle-aged men of working-class background from Hamburg, who had been drafted but found unfit for military duty. In the course of the murderous Operation Reinhard, these men were ordered to round up Jews, and if there was not enough room for them on the trains, to shoot them. In other, more chilling cases, they were ordered simply to kill a specified number of Jews in a given town or area. In one instance, the commander of the unit gave his men the choice of opting out of this duty if they found it too unpleasant; the majority chose not to exercise that option, resulting in fewer than 15 men out of a battalion of 500 opting out. Browning argued that the men of Unit 101 agreed willingly to participate in massacres out of a basic obedience to authority and peer pressure, not blood-lust or primal hatred.^[6]

In his review of Ordinary Men published in July 1992,^[7] Goldhagen expressed agreement with several of Browning's findings, namely, that the killings were not, as many people believe, done entirely by SS men, but also by Trawnikis; that the men of Unit 101 had the option not to kill, and – a point Goldhagen emphasizes – that no German was ever punished in any serious way for refusing to kill Jews.^[8] But Goldhagen disagreed with Browning's "central interpretation" that the killing was done in the context of the ordinary sociological phenomenon of obedience to authority.^[8] Goldhagen instead contended that "for the vast majority of the perpetrators a monocausal explanation does suffice".^[9] They were not ordinary men as we usually understand men to be, but "ordinary members of an extraordinary political culture, the culture of Nazi Germany, which was possessed of a hallucinatory, lethal view of the Jews. That view was the mainspring of what was, in essence, voluntary barbarism."^[10] Goldhagen stated that he would write a book that would rebut Ordinary Men and Browning's thesis, and prove instead that it was the murderous antisemitic nature of German culture that led the men of Reserve Battalion 101 to murder Jews.

ANd:

Goldhagen's book stoked controversy and debate in Germany and the United States. Some historians have characterized its reception as an extension of the Historikerstreit, the German historiographical debate of the 1980s that sought to explain Nazi history. The book was a "publishing phenomenon",^[1] achieving fame in both the United States and Germany, despite its "mostly scathing" reception among historians,^[2] who were unusually vocal in condemning it as ahistorical and, in the words of Holocaust historian Raul Hilberg, "totally wrong about everything" and "worthless".

nutbean 8,838

Posted December 8, 2017

52 minutes ago, dieter said:

By the way, Goldhagen's book contains a lot of anti German venom and has been severely criticized, Browning and Hillberg among the chief critics.

'Browning argued differently. Rather than seeking one cause, he emphasized a variety of factors that influenced people. In the case of Reserve Police Battalion 101, he found that these men were mostly average, middle aged German men, largely from Hamburg. They were not extensively indoctrinated, nor were they terribly receptive to that which they received. Some were initially anxious, even uneasy, with the task they were set out to do; but they carried it out nonetheless.

They described how they feared being viewed as weak by their peers, as not being able to do the tough job they were given. Alcoholism was extensive, consumption before or after killings being common; alcohol does desensitize, so it served as a coping mechanism, CLEARLY demonstrating that these men were not subconscious, rampant anti-Semites, but 'Ordinary Men'. The more they killed, the more routine and less exceptional these acts became, leading the killings to become almost 'banal'. They killed both Poles AND Jews, so they were clearly not solely driven to kill by a hatred of Jews.

Goldhagen's thesis is deeply flawed, and has been attacked and largely dismantled by historians and psychologists. Notably Raul Hilberg, practically the godfather of Holocaust Studies, dismissed 'Hitler's Willing Executioners' as 'totally wrong'.

And, for the record. my father deserted the German army in 1944 in Italy. He was lucky to have been able to surrender to a British officer rather than being killed by either Italian partisans or the German army.

He was in a POW camp in Port Said until 1947. When he and his fellow prisoners were shown the footage of the labour camps where the eastern Europen Jews were held they believed it was propaganda, akin to the first WW charge that Germans bayoneted babies in Belgium.

However, my father did once come across a soldier who had served in the Eastern Front for most of the war - my father was wounded on the way to Stalingrad and recovered in Germany and was then sent to Bordeaux and Italy - who said if the Germans lost the war some very unsavoury things would come to light.

In other words - and this was corroborated by the Romanian father of a Jewish friend who worked as slave labour for a Wermacht unit - German soldiers were by and large not involved in killing Jews.

The notion that they were comes from Hollywood, as did the 'soap and lampshades' myth.

Also, just for the record, my grandmother lived within two kilometres of Bergen Belsen. Neither she or any of her neighbours had any inkling about what happened there.

History by its very nature generalises.

I asked my father in law who hid with his family in a roof space in Zilina (Czeshoslovakia) during the Nazi occupation his recollections. Before they went into hiding there was a steady stream of escapees from the death camps that came through their town. ( I did not realise that escaping from the camps was not uncommon). He said that they indeed told stories of the gas chambers. Whilst no one for a minute was unaware of the brutality of the occupiers towards Jews, the stories of mass extermination were viewed as "stories from madmen" - they simply were incomprehensible and were just not believed.

Grapeviney 9,797

Posted December 8, 2017

1 hour ago, dieter said:

but they carried it out nonetheless.

They described how they feared being viewed as weak by their peers, as not being able to do the tough job they were given. Alcoholism was extensive, consumption before or after killings being common; alcohol does desensitize, so it served as a coping mechanism, CLEARLY demonstrating that these men were not subconscious, rampant anti-Semites, but 'Ordinary Men'. The more they killed, the more routine and less exceptional these acts became, leading the killings to become almost 'banal'.

In other words - and this was corroborated by the Romanian father of a Jewish friend who worked as slave labour for a Wermacht unit - German soldiers were by and large not involved in killing Jews.

The notion that they were comes from Hollywood, as did the 'soap and lampshades' myth.

Let me get this straight.

They killed so much that it became routine and banal, but by and large they weren't involved in killing Jews?

Interesting theory.

Here's what the US Holocaust Memorial says about German military complicity, and here's an account from Yad Vashem (the Israeli equivalent).

Members of the German military murdered or were complicit in the murder of Jews as well as people with disabilities, Roma (Gypsies), Soviet prisoners of war, and eastern European civilians.

The German military knowingly supported the Einsatzgruppen, which worked in the rear of the German lines in the east as mobile killing units.

Long after the war, a myth persisted claiming the German military (or Wehrmacht) was not involved in the Holocaust and other crimes associated with Nazi genocidal policy. This belief is untrue. The German military participated in many aspects of the Holocaust: in supporting Hitler, in the use of forced labor, and in the mass murder of Jews and other groups targeted by the Nazis.

The military’s complicity extended not only to the generals and upper leadership but also to the rank and file.

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The Wehrmacht was quite "nazified" by 1938, after Hitler gained the respect and fear of the armed forces by taking over territories, such as Austria and parts of Czechoslovakia, without having to resort to war. In addition, by that time, many young soldiers had joined the armed forces straight out of the Hitler Youth movement (Hitlerjugend) and the Reich Labor services. Some officers may have disapproved of the atrocities carried out by the Nazis when Germany invaded Poland in September 1939; however, they kept quiet after Germany vanquished FRANCE in May and June 1940 in a striking display of military strength and might.

Members of the Wehrmacht stood by as Einsatzgruppen units attached to the army carried out the mass murder of Jews. Some Wehrmacht units even gave the Einsatzgruppen military support. A very few Wehrmacht officers objected to the extermination of Europe's Jews.

Jara 1,153

Posted December 8, 2017

Dieter I take your point - I did a bit more reading - (must be 20 years since I read Goldhagen) I don't know about his book being "totally wrong" - controversial is the best I'd say about it. Grapeviney made some good points.

Again, many years since I read it, and I don't remember the name or author, but a book about secret recordings made of German senior officers in a POW camp remains the most chilling thing I've ever read about the casual attitude of so many Germans to the slaughter of innocents.

I should mention that my own views on German complicity weren't based solely upon one or two books. My father in law was an artist who fled Germany in the 1930s, driven by his horror at the rise of Fascism and Anti-Semitism and who remained very cynical about the country of his birth. I don't believe he was surprised by the Holocaust - he did say to me once, something along the lines of "It takes a lot of criminals to murder six million people".

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TRAINING: Monday 2nd December 2024

There were many Demonland Trackwatchers braving the morning heat at Gosch's Paddock today to witness the players go through the annual 2km time trials. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Max, TMac & Melksham the first ones out on the track. Runners are on. Guess they will be doing a lot of running. TRAINING: Max, TMac, Melksham, Woey, Rivers, AMW, May, Sharp, Kolt, Adams, Sparrow, Jefferson, Billings, Petty, chandler, Howes, Lever, Kozzy, Mentha, Fullarton, Sal

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Wednesday, 18th December 2024

It was the final session of 2024 before the Christmas/New Years break and the Demonland Trackwatchers were out in force to bring you the following preseason training observations from Wednesday's session at Gosch's Paddock ... READ MORE

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Monday, 16th December 2024

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Friday, 13th December 2024

With only a few sessions left before the Christmas break a number of Demonlander Trackwatchers headed down to Gosch's Paddock to bring you their observations from this morning's preseason training session ... READ MORE

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Wednesday, 11th December 2024

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AFLW Season Review

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The 2024 AFLW season was a challenging year marked by injuries, tough fixtures, and emerging young talent, with hopes for a brighter 2025 ... READ MORE

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2024 AFL Draft

UP IN LIGHTS by Whispering Jack

Those who watched the 2024 Marsh AFL National Championships closely this year would not be particularly surprised that Melbourne selected Victoria Country pair Harvey Langford and Xavier Lindsay on the first night of the AFL National Draft ... READ MORE

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2024 AFL Draft

Welcome to Demonland: Harvey Langford

With the Demons first selection in the 2024 AFL Draft they took ready made midfielder Harvey Langdord from the Dandenong Stingrays at Pick 6 ... READ MORE

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