TBH Poppy is a important cog to the Hawks, Stratton is underrated by many but I think one of thier top 3 most important players is Liam Shiels.

7 hours ago, Akum said:

It's clear that for them the loss to us really stung. It's also interesting that for a coach of Clarko's experience and for two of their senior players, they're really struggling to come to terms with it. All the things that usually work so well for them when they're in trouble - the behind-the-play snipes, the staging for frees - were completely ineffective, and they just ran out of answers. 

Heard another "version" of this Hawthorn spin on SEN afternoon, would have been the Monday or Tuesday after the Hawthorn game. Harf and whoever it is he's on with wanted to know who are the "most valuable players in the AFL - not the best but who are the players who, if they're missing, your side is going to struggle to win".

The first one they came up with: Paul Puopolo! Yeah, right.

The next was a Saint, Jarryn Geary I think.

Then the next ... James Frawley!!

Then the inevitable Toigs supporter rang in and offered Deledio.

Then Harf said: Ben Stratton, who "just never gets beaten one-on-one" (like Watts did a couple of times in the first two quarters).

So according to Harfthorn, three of the players in the AFL, without whom any team would struggle to win, are Puopolo & Frawley - who of course were injured & didn't play - & Stratton, who was off injured from late in the 2nd quarter. So the Hawks' "most valuable players" actually aren't Mitchell, Rioli, Hodge, Gibson, Lewis, Birchall, or Gunston - they're the three players on their list who happened to take little or no part against us!

This is when you know you've really got a side's measure.

Extraordinary.

He left out Roughead.

On 8/11/2016 at 11:19 AM, Ethan Tremblay said:

I haven't, worth a try? I need a bottle of something for Saturday nights game

Ethan how did the Oakheart go?