I believe the Goodwin plan should be scrapped. Unproven coach who was a rushed signing as the time for coach in waiting appointment drew near. He is learning under Roos but concerned at what he is learning.

Ratten was a good coach in his own right at Carlton and in hindsight even better.

Since then he has been heavily involved in Hawthorns coaching team and working close to Clarko for the past few years he is coming from a culture and philosophy of successful footy.

Roos is going to hand a weak and poor list to an untried coach in 12 months. Goodwin is coaching the midfield and look at the lack of cohesion and teamwork amongst our midfielders.

Lets go after Ratts

An to add, our midfield under Ratten as midfield coach was slick and a cohesive unit. My biggest concern is that our midfield this year seems to have no idea how to play as an effective unit. On paper the midfield should not be that bad, but it is. It is inept and misfiriing big time.

Hogan will not stick around

I believe the Goodwin plan should be scrapped. Unproven coach who was a rushed signing as the time for coach in waiting appointment drew near. He is learning under Roos but concerned at what he is learning.

Ratten was a good coach in his own right at Carlton and in hindsight even better.

Since then he has been heavily involved in Hawthorns coaching team and working close to Clarko for the past few years he is coming from a culture and philosophy of successful footy.

Roos is going to hand a weak and poor list to an untried coach in 12 months. Goodwin is coaching the midfield and look at the lack of cohesion and teamwork amongst our midfielders.

Lets go after Ratts

Not many people have worked out for MFC, Brett Ratten is an exception to that trend.

Sadly, I don't think Ratten would have us anymore.

Oh dear...I know boats. Supporters can have all the opinions they want in the world, but I will walk away from this club when it starts taking strategic direction from the masses.

WTF?!

I genuinely believe we have one of the best, and most stable, coaching groups in the competition.

Some of the crazy hyperbole following our extremely poor showing against St Kilda has been ridiculous.

It's that not long ago that we beat Geelong at Geelong with about 8 of our best 22 players out.

We have a young and inexperienced list. There will be ups and downs, but it is clear that the general trend is one of absolute improvement.

Yeah I thought that as well. I think mcartney is a huge get, but to say after 2 seasons, that the team improvement is satisfactory is just not plausible. Any chance to secure big name trades is destroyed by performances like last game.

The midfield contains Jones, Viney, Vince, - yet it gets SMASHED

there is no cohesion. I agree it had to come from a long way back but 2 seasons has passed now under the new regime. The improvement curve is too flat. The myth that its a young side doesn't fly anymore.

The lack of cohesion between the players is worrying. The last few weeks the midfield has been completely dismantled at times. The fwd 50 entries are abysmal. This is more than just individual skill level.

we don't need A grade mids to compete with st kilda in the wet. I don't mind the loss so much as they are an up and coming side. It was the way we lost that concerns me. that was a 10 goal hiding in the dry, make no mistake.

the smashing in the clearances and the I50s can't be ignored.

thats an indictment on the midfield and the coaching. You don't need elite recruits to be 'competitive' in the middle against the saints in the wet. Yes you need elite mids to beat hawthorn but we weren't trying to do that on sunday.

The midfield got their pants pulled down on sunday by a bunch of 1st year players.