All still speculation at this point and if there isn;t anymore evidence then what's been mentioned in the media then there's still no smoking gun in my opinion from a legal perspective.

Worst case scenario and there is a fine & loss of draft picks the club need to convince the AFL that the draft pick loss should be for 2013 given our 2nd round pick is dedicated to father son and Pick 4 is a compensation pick that we're entitled to under the AFL expansion rules, it's not our first round draft pick.

That's a good point, would explain the reason why we gave GWS pick 3 and 13 for Hogen.

At lest if we do lose first round picks next draft we have him so it kinda won't matter as mush

The AFL will wait for MFC to get pick 4 in the bank then come knocking.

The AFL will wait for MFC to get pick 4 in the bank then come knocking.

That would be smart on their part. If they wait until the draft and we get pick 4 and Viney into red and blue they can throw the book at us for next year (and the following if they want) but we still have the scope for improvement with the current crop.

That would be smart on their part. If they wait until the draft and we get pick 4 and Viney into red and blue they can throw the book at us for next year (and the following if they want) but we still have the scope for improvement with the current crop.

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Any penalty handed out to us, should be mimicked to all other clubs who have also 'tanked'. Carlton, Collingwood, Hawthorn, St Kilda, Western Bulldogs, West Coast Eagles, all should face the same scrutiny and share the same punishment we get.

i maintain that tanking was not illegal at the time, what is it? how is it confirmed? who is responsible?

It is to hard to hit teams for

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Any penalty handed out to us, should be mimicked to all other clubs who have also 'tanked'. Carlton, Collingwood, Hawthorn, St Kilda, Western Bulldogs, West Coast Eagles, all should face the same scrutiny and share the same punishment we get.

I think you might've missed the point of my post, I completely agree that if we get sanctioned others should as well. But if the AFL decide to punish us then it would make it an easier pill to swallow if they wait until after the draft because then we get the all important pick 4 and JV. That way the AFL save face by sanctioning us and we still get our two important picks.

Fact is at this stage we are the only ones being investigated, I'm trying to think of a scenario where (if they want to) the AFL can punish us but leave our future in tact.

Edited November 1, 201212 yr by Pates

I think you might've missed the point of my post, I completely agree that if we get sanctioned others should as well. But if the AFL decide to punish us then it would make it an easier pill to swallow if they wait until after the draft because then we get the all important pick 4 and JV. That way the AFL save face by sanctioning us and we still get our two important picks.

Fact is at this stage we are the only ones being investigated, I'm trying to think of a scenario where (if they want to) the AFL can punish us but leave our future in tact.

I know what you mean, but my "[censored]" was aimed at 'they can throw the book at us next year'.

Until such time that the AFL conducts investigations into all team who tanked (funny how all supporters know which teams did yet the heads at AFL don't a have frickin clue) and hands down punishment's to all teams, we should not be punished alone.