During pre season he was the first player to give in on the running. His endurance was pitiful. He has gained no core strength since being drafted. He has not improved his speed off the mark. His attitude was ordinary and he whinges. Starting to get it?

Perhaps if he said to the Coach " I will be in the Gym for a minimum 10 hours a week, starting now and I will run with Jones during the whole pre season and will start now, the Coach might keep him.

Got it. Cheers

Would just hate to see him go to another club and become a great player.

I would of thought part of a coaching role would be to motivate and get the best out of each player. And all players would respond differently to coaching methods, sounds as though someone needs to work out what it takes for Gys.

Not withstanding it's obviously important that the player has the right attitude and drive.

I dont think we will see our delist list until after tradeweek...

Neeld will probably wait to see who he can trade away before culling them wholesale

For the first time in years I'm actually excited about the direction the club is taking. Cutting spuds and seeing the backs of average veterans makes me happy. I just hope they keep on chopping as some of the deadwood is starting to get covered in ivy. Guys like Cook, Gysberts, Morton, Moloney, Bate, Bennell, Davey are just not good enough to play key roles in our future team. Neeld has my support as a tough and uncompromising coach. Something this club has needed for a long long time. As a player you need to be willing to extract 100% from yourself for the benefit of your teammates first, your club second and yourself third. That is what makes great players, COMMITMENT. If you haven't got it Fark off

I don't mind this discussion but in future can we say "players who are no longer good enough" if we're talking about people like Aaron Davey, because there was a time when he was sensational. It's wrong to lump such players in with those such as Cook.

And yes, I support what Neeld is doing.

Neeld had the opportunity to let Bate go to the dogs for a good draft pick, but chose to keep him. I dont buy into the idea that Neeld had little idea of the playing list. He came into the club eyes wide open and according some one on this site he regrets his choice not cull last year. He thought he could develop Bate into a midfielder and couldnt and didnt. A bad decision from Neeld here. Whats to say he will get it right. Not all his decisions will be right but he needs to get alot of decisions right for this club to turn around

I support Neeld but remain a sceptic until tangible results are provided. The opposite has occurred and Im a little worried about the clubs direction.

3 years for Jamar and McKenzie. Sheez The alarm bells are ringing. He may not be the messiah we are hoping for.

We could have got Alex Woodward, or Murdoch or Michael Talia last year if the Dogs were going to give us a pick in the 30's or 40's for Bate.

With blind faith we follow. Will it lead to the Garden of Eden or Christmas Island.. ahh

I hope we can delist or trade some of our negative posters to bigfooty

Just dream how great this place would be if that actually happens.

I don't mind this discussion but in future can we say "players who are no longer good enough" if we're talking about people like Aaron Davey, because there was a time when he was sensational. It's wrong to lump such players in with those such as Cook.

And yes, I support what Neeld is doing.

pretty fair comment re Davey. Davey is actually responsible for a complete trend ( focus ) in footy...the defensive forward role. and the rest as they say is history.

Cook ?? ummm...ummm..

I hope we can delist or trade some of our negative posters to bigfooty

Just dream how great this place would be if that actually happens.

Yep - a world that only has fluffy, happy shiny ppl would be just the tonic for MFC success. if this were the case, Bailey would still be coaching and getting a 3 yr extension.

Nice Utopia