To answer your question, yes. I don't blame Neeldy as I think he has been as honest as can be about the issues facing the club. He has been good in that he isn't as impressed as others have been by us beating up on interstate clubs as the G with the game played on our terms. He seems, to an outsider, to be cultivating a game plan that will hold up against the powerful Victorian clubs in September.

The people who I hold a grudge against are the snake oil salesmen (and some of them are still at the club) who thought, as was noted earlier, that high draft picks coupled with Geelong's game plan would automatically give the club success. As a supporter, the years 2009-2011 have been the most galling experience I have had.

And the direction this club has taken since 2008 has sucked all the energy and fighting spirit out of the players. Mediocrity was the mantra for two seasons.

I will say it again an again .....our culture stinks. 1964 -2012.....zero premierships. Bad culture for too long.

My opinion full stop.

I just watched the first quarter and think we should be renamed the Melbourne Clowns.

My mates who go for top 8 sides basically think that this level of mediocrity would only be accepted at the MFC. I hope its building to something because its wearing thin.

Screw Manning Up , sticking Fat, character building [censored].

I agree with Soidee - 6 Years of sub - standard Football is enough.

I have stuck fat for nearly 50 years & right now this side is sucking the life out of my passion for this great game.

I am taking no shots at Neeld here, I actually love the bloke, but for the sake of every Demon supporter's sanity

we have to begin to take some positive steps forward on the field from 2013.

6 Years FFS is long enough.

Driving home on that wet Friday night in September 2006 after we had taken The Saints out of the finals seems like a lifetime ago.

Yep feeling pretty duped also @ this point in time.

PS : Range Rover - Classic

Agree with you here...I'm tired...member for 25 years....tired of it.

Its been too long...

I just lose more & more interest watching incompetent non comitted footballers....Its not the entire team who is incompetent but theres some poor footballers on our list.

"5 year plans for flags"..

"We have a young side"

Sick of excuses....

MAKE IT HAPPEN NEXT YEAR ROUND 1 MFC or I vote with my feet & I wont sign up.