Matthew Warnock

Nathan Jones

Jack Watts

Jordan Gysberts

Matthew Bate

Jamie Bennell

James Frawley

Cale Morton

Colin Sylvia

Jordie McKenzie

Ricky Petterd

Brad Green

Addam Maric

Brent Moloney

Liam Jurrah

Jared Rivers

Joel Macdonald

Michael Newton

Austin Wonaeamirri

Stefan Martin

Max Gawn

Jeremy Howe

Neville Jetta

Daniel Nicholson

Michael Evans

Nathan Jones

Jack Watts

Jordan Gysberts

Jamie Bennell

James Frawley

Jack Trengove

Cale Morton

Colin Sylvia

Jordie McKenzie

Ricky Petterd

Brad Green

Colin Garland

Brent Moloney

Liam Jurrah

Jared Rivers

Joel Macdonald

Tom Scully

Stefan Martin

Jeremy Howe

Mark Jamar

James Strauss

Daniel Nicholson

I have highlighted the changes in our team from the carlton game and the richmond game and it is not rocket science to see why we are playing much better. thats not including davey, tapscott as well. Plus the improved form of Green, Watts, Jurrah and Petterd, Frawley and Stef martin.

The outs we had would be the equilevent of carlton missing Jamieson, Judd, Murphy, Kruezer. If we can keep a healthy list, touch wood, there is reason why we cant be competitive with the best teams in the comp. I am really looking forward to playing carlton and west coast with a fitter, stronger team.

Edited June 30, 201114 yr by Bruce Almighty

Gawn and Strauss, too. Not to say that Gawn was bad, but I think that Strauss has been better.

You're spot on, factor in the improvement in Martin & Watts and its neary half a team of changes.Thats huge

The outs we had would be the equilevent of carlton missing Jamieson, Judd, Murphy, Kruezer. If we can keep a healthy list, touch wood, there is reason why we cant be competitive with the best teams in the comp. I am really looking forward to playing carlton and west coast with a fitter, stronger team.

judd and murphy....you having a bubble bath-laugh?

we had outs...these outs caused us to lose a lot of structure...not really comparable.

judd and murphy....you having a bubble bath-laugh?

we had outs...these outs caused us to lose a lot of structure...not really comparable.

This is what he meant.

Howe didn't play against Carlton either. That's a turn over of 8 players!

Go Dees!

This is what he meant.

Exactly, not once did i compare the abilitys of the players, it is more do in terms of player importance for the club.

The first list has 25 names in it and the second one only has 22. The first has the emergencies too - Wonaeamirri, Gawn and Howe didn't play against Carlton. Take those out, bold Warnock in the first list, unbold Nicholson in the second list and bold Howe, and I think it's then correct.

Edit: Argh, for clarity's sake:

Trengove for Jetta

Garland for Warnock

Howe for Bate

Scully for Maric

Jamar for Newton

Strauss for Evans

I think the OP is right, it's obvious why we look so much better now compared to then. The last one is probably 50/50, but in every other case it's a clear and pronounced value add. Confirms what most of us already thought at the time - the team we fielded against Carlton carried a lot of slack. It is interesting to see this on paper though.

Edited June 30, 201114 yr by Nasher