Too much credit there, they gave up about 5 minutes into the 2nd quarter.

We are just sheep at the moment, sheep with a decent shepherd who may help us become older sheep but not wolves.

This years resignation hits harder than any other season I can remember, there has only ever been spirit when we've won.

I disagree. This club is "leaderless" and "uncoached".

Been this way since 2008 (if not before).

I disagree. This club is "leaderless" and "uncoached".

Been this way since 2008 (if not before).

Kind of what I meant in a way, we have a shepherd to just watch us as we wander around aimlessly...

Non plussed... Bewildered... Sounds like giving up to me, but if that's enough of an effort for you then I hope you enjoy winning a few quarters for the rest of the year

Non plussed is approaching ones limit and becoming bogged down under pressure. This isn't giving up, it's confusion. The antidote in football terms is knowledge, and furthering players experience under pressure. Big game pressure.

What happened later is more concern and culturaly bad. Not running the game out is poor. Even if its chasing butt.

Don't stand still.

Don't handball to a stationary team mate 2 metres away.

Put more than 1 player inside or generally around our 50m.

Get a new coach.

Haha ah... The typical genius reactionary non-solutions.

Thanks for that.

Non plussed is approaching ones limit and becoming bogged down under pressure. This isn't giving up, it's confusion. The antidote in football terms is knowledge, and furthering players experience under pressure. Big game pressure.

What happened later is more concern and culturaly bad. Not running the game out is poor. Even if its chasing butt.

Fair enough, can understand what you're saying, might have been a more external than internal feeling then as it just felt to me like all the life and passion was bled/lost from us by half time.

What happened later is more concern and culturaly bad. Not running the game out is poor. Even if its chasing butt.

Fair enough, can understand what you're saying, might have been a more external than internal feeling then as it just felt to me like all the life and passion was bled/lost from us by half time.

No. Around lat in the 3rd qtr I think the fire started to go out. After 3 Qtr time the Pies came out with less intensity, and seemed to conserve their energy. They looked to setup differently and didn't go as hard. So without seeing the replay I feel confident in say ing the 3rd Qtr was our last yelp.

But I was under deep cover in the goal to goal line, so want to see the game again on my recorder to have a closer look.

In terms of our kickouts, we should try the 'group at the top of the 50 and everyone run different directions' strategy. Seriously. Destroys a zone - since you can ping to the group if the opposition try to maintain their structures, but if they attempt to man on it frees up space for you.

Watch how the Cats beat it in Rd. 8,you have to be very patient and precise with your footskills.For every Pie pressing up on the opp. ballcarrier,there is an opponent which must be utilised further up the ground in the correct space,and he must be constantly on the move,as soon as he's flatfooted he's a witches hat and worthless.You also must be extremely fit and the Pies looked much fitter than us today or we just through in the towell when 36 points down half way through the third and lost by 88.Countless times today the Pies gained possession inside our 50 and you'd see at least 5-6 Pies streaming down the ground with our players literally 10-15 metres behind.

Just about every kick in today went to the right with Cloke waiting underneath it,it's way too predictible.Sometimes you're just better off kicking to a team mate just inside D50 and he kicks it to the top of our 50 and gain as much metreage as you can ala Rugby League,at least if the Pies gain possession,it's 100 metres from their goal as opposed to 40-50 metres when we turn it over handballing through the press on D50,and if we gain possession,it's 50 metres from our goal with Sylvia,JT,Jones etc running past.

Watch how the Cats beat it in Rd. 8,you have to be very patient and precise with your footskills.

Great point. I understand we need to take risks and I do like exciting football, but I wouldn't protest too much if we actually went back over the mark once or twice a game.

It's blindingly clear that every team that plays a hard press against us causes us to crumble. We cannot deal with it.

West Coast, Hawthorn, Collingwood, St Kilda, Norf...

Maybe it is rocket science...