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[Macca 16,923]

Post Season Tipping Comp Leaderboard

9 - JV7

7 - Gorgoroth,  Macca

6 - Clintosaurus

5 - DeeSpencer

 

3 points on offer next week

 

Super Bowl

Monday 10.30am Atlanta vs New England

[Gorgoroth 12,924]

I'll be wanting a Falcons win but will tip against them cos JV7 will.tip them and I want to win ?.

[JV7 2,350]

1 hour ago, Gorgoroth said:

I'll be wanting a Falcons win but will tip against them cos JV7 will.tip them and I want to win ?.

I might have a bet each way ?... We lose the SB but I win the demonland post season tipping comp, great consolation prize!

Edited January 23, 2017 by JV7

[Gorgoroth 12,924]

Ha ha. Seriously, good luck. Hope you guys win.

[cowboy_from_hell 2,390]

I'm back from the wilderness. Congrats to gorgoroth for the tipping comp whooping he gave me and the rest of this fine group. Shame I missed the post season comp but I'm usually very horrible at it anyway. Great to see Atlanta in the SB. They are up against the evil empire so who doesn't want Atlanta to win? I know playoffs don't count but after watching Atlanta I forgot that Matt Ryan had a stunning year and he could be the MVP. Rodgers did all he could but the Pats have  belichick, Cowboys have a running game and defense, Atlanta have a running game and Julio Jones. My point is what does Rodgers have? He has himself. Give the man some defense or a running game and they are NFC Champs every year jus like the Pats in the AFC. 

[Gorgoroth 12,924]

Rodgers does have a seriosuly good o line. And decent recievers. But yeah, if they get a good RB to play consistently then they go up a step or two.

[JV7 2,350]

You'd think Lacy will help the Packers in the run game once fit next year.

Still can't believe we've made the Super Bowl... Did not think in year 2 of Quinn we'd be there already but we've taken advantage of an even NFC year. 

Funny I've watched a few NFL shows the past couple of days & how the same people who called our defense out all year are saying how much it's improved which it has over the home stretch/playoffs but like I wrote in here out defense was never as bad as the rankings suggested, when we got 2+ scores up late in games they'd go into preservation mode & give up junk yards & scores. It'll be interesting to see how the young group (4 rookies & 2 2nd years) hold up against Brady on the big stage

[Gorgoroth 12,924]

Pats do lost of short passes, do the falcons play more man to man or zone? 

[Macca 16,923]

It's hard to have it all in this league ... Belichick has got it figured though.  Most of his players are expendable and they are often treated as straight-out commodities.  It quite literally is all about the team - no prima donna's, no diva's, no big-heads.  Gronk gets away with a little bit but his game-day face is ultra serious.  However, Gronk being out means business as usual for New England.

But here's the catch ... a team has to be great like the Pats with a QB like Brady in order for Belichick to then 'manage' the way he does - it's not like their system can just be copied.  On top of all that, he's the master coach with a game plan that can be either new or change every week.  An opposition team's coaching staff doesn't know what it's going to get.

They are going to be hard to beat and Atlanta cannot afford any slip-ups.  The Atlanta D-Line is going to have to find a way to get at Brady ... easier said than done of course.

 

[JV7 2,350]

3 hours ago, Gorgoroth said:

Pats do lost of short passes, do the falcons play more man to man or zone? 

We started out more of a zone defense but Quinn has adjusted a bit as the season has gone on and played more man to man

[JV7 2,350]

I think like the GB game it's whether our defense can make stops which against Brady isn't easy but I thought we'd struggle to hold Rodgers & we kept him to 0 points until the 3rd... We know what our offense will bring, it's just whether the inexperienced defense can get the job done. 

[Gorgoroth 12,924]

29 minutes ago, JV7 said:

We started out more of a zone defense but Quinn has adjusted a bit as the season has gone on and played more man to man

Man to man is better v pats.

 

[Macca 16,923]

3 hours ago, JV7 said:

I think like the GB game it's whether our defense can make stops which against Brady isn't easy but I thought we'd struggle to hold Rodgers & we kept him to 0 points until the 3rd... We know what our offense will bring, it's just whether the inexperienced defense can get the job done. 

The key is scoring a TD or 2 early and then putting the Pats on the back foot.  They are always going to come back at you though so a lot will rest with Ryan.  They'll probably double-team Jones so you'll need your running game up and about.  Both Freeman & Coleman are decent and if both get amongst it, that might throw the Patriots off a bit. 

Atlanta's all-round offense is tough for any defence.  The match-up (the Falcons offense vs Patriots defence) will be New England's toughest all year (by a stretch)  The reverse could be said of course as well.

So then it boils down to what tricks Belichick has up his sleeve with his own offense ... and whether the Falcons defence can cope with it.

 

 

 

 

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Edited January 25, 2017 by Macca

[Gorgoroth 12,924]

Yeah pats hardly ever trail. Get a lead and see what they can do. 

I think the falcons need to get three forts downs on penning drive to get some confidence and momentum. 

[JV7 2,350]

29 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

Yeah pats hardly ever trail. Get a lead and see what they can do. 

I think the falcons need to get three forts downs on penning drive to get some confidence and momentum. 

Well we've scored TD's on our opening drive the last 8 games, heres hoping we make it 9 & put the Pats behind the 8 ball

[Gorgoroth 12,924]

11 hours ago, JV7 said:

Well we've scored TD's on our opening drive the last 8 games, heres hoping we make it 9 & put the Pats behind the 8 ball

In super keen for this game.  Wish it was this Monday!

[JV7 2,350]

1 hour ago, Gorgoroth said:

In super keen for this game.  Wish it was this Monday!

You got the day off for it ? I'm getting it off one way or another!

[Gorgoroth 12,924]

3 hours ago, JV7 said:

You got the day off for it ? I'm getting it off one way or another!

Yep, every year, my work knows that Super Bowl Day I'm not at work.

[Gorgoroth 12,924]

Just got to get through this week...

 

And the sudden onset of all the NFL experts come superbowl week. 

[Gorgoroth 12,924]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/01/31/kyle-shanahans-backpack-and-game-plan-accidentally-taken-by-reporter-at-media-night/

 

Wonder if the reporter looked at the content... took pics?

Maybe sold it to NE... new "gate" to follow the pats around... lol

[cowboy_from_hell 2,390]

The Giants figured out the Pats in superbowls. NY held onto to the ball for ever behind a solid run game and a clutch Eli. In one of their 2 wins NY had a TD drive that nearly took up the whole first quarter. Atlanta are a different offense though. I read that on a first down throw they average nearly 8 yards completed. They are a big time offense but have we seen belichick contain offenses for many years. How is Atlanta's run game JV? 

[JV7 2,350]

1 hour ago, cowboy_from_hell said:

The Giants figured out the Pats in superbowls. NY held onto to the ball for ever behind a solid run game and a clutch Eli. In one of their 2 wins NY had a TD drive that nearly took up the whole first quarter. Atlanta are a different offense though. I read that on a first down throw they average nearly 8 yards completed. They are a big time offense but have we seen belichick contain offenses for many years. How is Atlanta's run game JV? 

Run game is good.. The 2 pronged attack of Coleman & Freeman is up there with the best once they get going. We were ranked 5th in the run game which some people forget & just think we are pass happy team... I read somewhere in 3 of our losses we rushed for under 50 yards. If we can establish the run we'll go along way to winning I think... Shannahan will surely have a well thought out game plan drawn up. I just hope the young defense can get some pressure on Brady & make some stops which is easier said then done! I've been optimistic troughout the playoffs... For some reason I'm quietly confident heading into the SB.

Patriots haven't faced a top 10 ranked offense all year.. The highest ranked offense they faced was Seattle & they beat them comfortably

Edited February 2, 2017 by JV7

[Gorgoroth 12,924]

I'll be heading to the pub tomorrow and plonking some moolah on the Falcons mate. 7-12 points is my thought without seeing the odds. 

Run game is good, I think you need to mix it early so they don't get settled either way. 

[JV7 2,350]

From a Falcons point of you the best way to get Ryan off his game is to bring pressure & get him off his spot.. The problem I think the Pats could have is if they bring a 3 or 4 man blitz how do you then double Julio (as many predict Bellicheck will) & keep Sanu & Gabriel in check aswell as Coleman & Freeman who are very good recievers out of the backfield... Maybe that's where my quiet confidence is coming from. I honestly don't think they can slow our offense & as good as Brady is, he doesn't have the range of weapons Ryan does.. Having said that Brady is the GOAT so I would never be overly confident going up against him especially in a SB as well the mastermind Bellicheck, coming up with ways to stop the offense.

 

Ps: I hope your all on board the Falcons 

Edited February 2, 2017 by JV7

[Gorgoroth 12,924]

Turn overs. It might just be as simple as that.