Goal Umpiring

[waynewussell 6,550]

The goal posts should have a sensor in them that lights up when it's hit by something hard?

[DeezMan 4]

Didn't cost them the game - and geelong got a pretty easy fifty on half time that wasn't there.

That's beside the point!!! The fact is, these erroneous decisions need to be amended before it ruins a teams season!!!

And Demons32... you weren't the only one to look like a complete fool jumping out of your seat at Watts' "goal".

[Wonaeamirri=STAR 1]

Why can't the goal umpires be miked up with a person in the box who can tell them if its a goal or not? So simple.

[Jumping Jack Clennett 1,820]

One thing to be said in the umpire's defence is that we have seen the replay from every angle except for the one he has to use to make a judgement.

Considering the speed of the action, I can only assume it just looked like a point to him, in that the footy didn't make contact with the boot.

The fault lies with the AFL maintaining a system which is insufficienct for making an educated call for all situations that can occur at the goalface.

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Watching the Burns goal live ,at normal speed, I wasn't 100% sure it was a goal, but thought the replay would be interesting. After the slo mo replay, it was obviously a goal, and I wondered how the Ump could make such a stupid error.

Then they replayed it at normal speed, and I could see how the goal ump erred. It was a tough decision at that speed. I thought it was grossly unfair of the commentators to write off that goal ump. saying "he should never again be allowed to officiate at an AFL match." Goal umpires take a pride in their job, and guys who make it to the AFL have had to show a lot of diligence and good judgment to get there.

[RalphiusMaximus 6,099]

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Watching the Burns goal live ,at normal speed, I wasn't 100% sure it was a goal, but thought the replay would be interesting. After the slo mo replay, it was obviously a goal, and I wondered how the Ump could make such a stupid error.

Then they replayed it at normal speed, and I could see how the goal ump erred. It was a tough decision at that speed. I thought it was grossly unfair of the commentators to write off that goal ump. saying "he should never again be allowed to officiate at an AFL match." Goal umpires take a pride in their job, and guys who make it to the AFL have had to show a lot of diligence and good judgment to get there.

And then they leave it at the door right? Seriously, the umpiring in all areas (even boundary) has been a joke this season. I don't think I've ever seen it this bad.

[Red Sox 2]

Talk of video reviews etc I don't like. Where does it start and end?

Using Rugby League as example, when the Video Ref is called they look at the entire lead up to the score (try in this case) and confirm no off-sides, illegal blocks etc.

Does this mean in AFL we would review the lead up to the goal? Say a push in the goal square or the like, does this get reviewed or just the contentious goal line decision?

I think video opens up further questions, our game is so unique and flowing that I find it hard to see video coming in to resolve this.

Maybe a second goal umpire, maybe the goal umpire wired up to a 3rd umpire who can over rule a decision but it would have to be quick.

[JACKATTACK 17]

Bizarre decision, yes. But please no video ump. Every time this happens the same old arguments get wheeled out, just like when there are draws.

The game is quick, complex and basically just organised chaos. The day we have perfect umpiring is the day this game becomes boring, think NFL.

[RalphiusMaximus 6,099]

Talk of video reviews etc I don't like. Where does it start and end?

Using Rugby League as example, when the Video Ref is called they look at the entire lead up to the score (try in this case) and confirm no off-sides, illegal blocks etc.

Does this mean in AFL we would review the lead up to the goal? Say a push in the goal square or the like, does this get reviewed or just the contentious goal line decision?

I think video opens up further questions, our game is so unique and flowing that I find it hard to see video coming in to resolve this.

Maybe a second goal umpire, maybe the goal umpire wired up to a 3rd umpire who can over rule a decision but it would have to be quick.

Actually, in the NRL the field umpire asks the for a ruling on a specific incident and only that incident. Even if the video ref spots something that would have affected teh call, he's only allowed to advise on the point requested. For instance if the field umpire asks "was he offside when the ball was kicked?" and the video clearly shows a forward pass but that the player was onside, he rules it a try.

[Dr. Mubutu 866]

Actually, in the NRL the field umpire asks the for a ruling on a specific incident and only that incident. Even if the video ref spots something that would have affected teh call, he's only allowed to advise on the point requested. For instance if the field umpire asks "was he offside when the ball was kicked?" and the video clearly shows a forward pass but that the player was onside, he rules it a try.

That's not technically right. While the example you gave WAS correct, that is only because the video referee is unable to rule on forward passes. If, however, there was an obstruction, and the player was onside, it would be ruled no try. The video ref actually has uninhibited (other than forward passes) licence to call back a play.