Jumping Jack Clennett 1,825 Posted June 14, 2010 Author Posted June 14, 2010 Please use a different title Jack, this is as boring as kiddy crap. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ OK, "dee-luded", would you like me to change the title to "Kicking in from Behinds". If you're not interested, don't read it. Dean Bailey talked a lot about point kick-ins in his after-match press conf. today. At last HE seems to be taking an interest, and he emphasised the importance of kicking in quickly.
Harrisonrules 273 Posted June 14, 2010 Posted June 14, 2010 We were hopeless deven in the practice games eg against West Coast. They had us totally locked in. They repeated the performance in the real game. This is what makes me question the coaching staff. They haven't addressed an obvious problem. Its not ability. Its the system. And that is a coaching issue.
Harrisonrules 273 Posted June 14, 2010 Posted June 14, 2010 We were hopeless deven in the practice games eg against West Coast. They had us totally locked in. They repeated the performance in the real game. This is what makes me question the coaching staff. They haven't addressed an obvious problem. Its not ability. Its the system. And that is a coaching issue.
Jumping Jack Clennett 1,825 Posted June 14, 2010 Author Posted June 14, 2010 I just watched the replay of the first quarter. All of Collingwood's 4 first quarter goals were direct results of poor kick-in tactics. I think this is of crucial significance in the result of this match.
Dinosaur Rover 197 Posted June 15, 2010 Posted June 15, 2010 You might have a point here in that on Monday vs the Woods Garland kicked past 50 (and he does have a fair roost) to Jamar and the crumbers worked to be front and centre when Jamar didnt mark we often gathered. Old fashioned I know and you need to have both the short option and the long for it to work. So maybe the learned something from the Carlton game.
titan_uranus 25,264 Posted June 15, 2010 Posted June 15, 2010 I saw marked improvement in this area yesterday. In the first quarter it was embarrassing. We just couldn't get it right. But after quarter time we changed tactic. In the first quarter we took far too long to move the ball on, allowing Collingwood to zone up effectively, and we then resorted to a kick to the flank 50 metres out, which more often than not caused a turnover. After quarter time we either had Davey kicking out, in which case he would take the first option about 30-40 metres directly up the ground, or we'd have someone else, in which case we'd cluster numbers together in one area, outnumbering the Collingwood players in the zone. Both methods worked well (Davey's more so).
volders 22 Posted June 15, 2010 Posted June 15, 2010 I prefer Frawley/Garland kicking in and Davey around the 50m arc, that way we can get the ball to Davey running off halfback and use his great footskills to open up the game or hit a target at half-forward. Garland/Frawley over other defenders because I think they are more reliable (Grimes just makes 2-3 mistakes a game and they can be VERY costly when he takes the kick ins)
Weedster 174 Posted June 15, 2010 Posted June 15, 2010 IMO the problem is a lack of movement from the Melbourne players and plays into the oppositions zone. This means the only option is a risky precise kick or a long bomb to Jamar. Agree - FWIW I think we have too many players who don't actually want the responsibility of receiving the kick-in so they may soft leads - end result - we either kick 15 metres to someone un-manned but still under devensive pressure, or we bomb to Jamar or Rivers. Need far more planning here. B)
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