Put it this way Joels game on Saturday was still better than the best came CJ played for our club.

I disagree.

However, I think that while he probably isn't as neat with the footy as CJ I'd back him to provide more of a contest, and he reads the ball well in the air.

If CJ was under anywhere the same pressure that Joel Mac was under against the Hawks on Saturday he would have capitulated IMHO.

he has only played 1 game for us Ffs. He was a better defender then Merrett at lions. Havent seen Cj play at Blues,he was a fringe player for us

The only thing we have left....I was rather disappointed with the angle the Water Person situated at the Ponsford end was carrying the bottle, he could have accidentally spilt it on the players, I hope when they review the tape, they are instructed the best way to carry it............double sigh

But couldn't we put a drink tube in so the water won't splash??

J.Mac or CJ

For me CJ, better skills and gets more of the footy.

Not convinced on J.Mac would not get a game at a top club, skills are not great and shouldn't be in contention for a game with Melb when or if we ever are challenging for the top four.

Yes we got him for nothing but i would of rathered someone else.

You think Joel can't get a game for a top club???? He played 22 for a semi-finalist last year...

Chris Johnson couldn't get a run for a wooden spooner.

Pretty ordinary argument.

45, average touches a game? This is the most useless stat in all of footy.

When will somebody realise this..

I was responding to this: "For me CJ, better skills and gets more of the footy."

If you have a better stat to show that CJ, in fact, doesn't get more of the footy - feel free to share it.

I am told (by the management of Carlton) that CJ is on his last legs.

He has recurring back related hammy problem.

Wonder if it is a little hereditary ? (speculating) I recall AJ having a few hammy problems. I recall when he tore a hamstring ~ in front of the Ponsford, it looked as though he'd been shot in the leg.

How many people on here can honestly say they paid attention to his games at Brisbane?

I did. For this same reason: -

Actually I did as he was in my dream team. I enjoyed watching him at Brisbane and I was pretty happy when we drafted him.

You think Joel can't get a game for a top club???? He played 22 for a semi-finalist last year...

Chris Johnson couldn't get a run for a wooden spooner.

Pretty ordinary argument.

Indeed.