I don't know way everyone wants to get rid of valenti, yes he is a midget,but in this game they always say that all types can play,short tall smart, stupid.if you are under 180 cm tall recruiter don't want to know you,unless you are a true native,look at SAM Mitchell he is a midget, recruiter did not want to know him, he was rookie listed, he was a ball magnet but because of his height, he was almost over look, valenti is the same type of player, he is a ball magnet,and that can never be underestimated, look at Greg williams, slow short but same how he always found the ball,libba is a another example, because of his height he was overlooked, when he had his chance he won brownlow, recruiter have to look harder and stop being sheep, there is gold in them hills you just have to look for it.

Also i think more 21 22 year old players need to be recruited,lots of kids are not as good at 18 as they are at 21,there has been lots of good player over looked. at 18

It's not that people want to get rid of him desperately, so much as there is no room for him on the list. We'll need 7 spots on the list, minimum, for 1, 2, 11, 18, 34, PSD, and Spencer; Robbo, the Ws and Brock give us 4 spots, so we still need another 3 spots. Valenti's a rookie in his second year, it's either onto the main list or out for him. If we were to promote him we'd have to find an additional delistee. So would you rather have Valenti or someone like Bartram or Buckley? That's the situation.

Do your research - Mitchell went at pick 36 in the 2001 "Superdraft", not a bad effort

I don't know way everyone wants to get rid of valenti, yes he is a midget,but in this game they always say that all types can play,short tall smart, stupid.if you are under 180 cm tall recruiter don't want to know you,unless you are a true native,look at SAM Mitchell he is a midget, recruiter did not want to know him, he was rookie listed, he was a ball magnet but because of his height, he was almost over look, valenti is the same type of player, he is a ball magnet,and that can never be underestimated, look at Greg williams, slow short but same how he always found the ball,libba is a another example, because of his height he was overlooked, when he had his chance he won brownlow, recruiter have to look harder and stop being sheep, there is gold in them hills you just have to look for it.

Also i think more 21 22 year old players need to be recruited,lots of kids are not as good at 18 as they are at 21,there has been lots of good player over looked. at 18

Well on that basis....

Lets evaluate those players?

Valenti - A la Sam Mitchell, sometimes people who get overlooked time and time again and finally make it play for their lives everytime the get on the field..In the games Valenti has been called upon, he is a good in and under player..Strong, fairly quick,and he's decision making is excellent..

Bartram - Started his career as a tagger, is a decent run with player, but lately has been played as a HB...And with respect to Clint with the passing of his father, but he has been ordinary at best in the last couple of seasons..Yes he is still young, but i think he makes very poor decisions by foot and by hand..And personally don't see the value with him at the club...If he is a run with player, i think Dunn is better than that and can hurt you the other way..Clint cant do this..

Buckley - This guy should not be considered...Last season Bucks showed he has searing pace..and when fully fit he is that midfielder we need running the lines...Should not even be in discussion..Bails has said throughout the season that he is an exciting player and he has been cut down with a groin problem all year..He has massive X factor..

It's not that people want to get rid of him desperately, so much as there is no room for him on the list. We'll need 7 spots on the list, minimum, for 1, 2, 11, 18, 34, PSD, and Spencer; Robbo, the W's and Brock give us 4 spots, so we still need another 3 spots. Valenti's a rookie in his second year, it's either onto the main list or out for him. If we were to promote him we'd have to find an additional delistee. So would you rather have Valenti or someone like Bartram or Buckley? That's the situation.

Do your research - Mitchell went at pick 36 in the 2001 "Superdraft", not a bad effort

Buckley can go he is so overrated by people on this site,as for bartim he has no up side, valenti does he is hardnut,buckley has no guts seen him play never gets the hard ball get he is a receiver, never tackles, lets his opponent first at the ball he is scared of a contest.

I don't know way everyone wants to get rid of valenti, yes he is a midget,but in this game they always say that all types can play,short tall smart, stupid.if you are under 180 cm tall recruiter don't want to know you,unless you are a true native,look at SAM Mitchell he is a midget, recruiter did not want to know him, he was rookie listed, he was a ball magnet but because of his height, he was almost over look, valenti is the same type of player, he is a ball magnet,and that can never be underestimated, look at Greg williams, slow short but same how he always found the ball,libba is a another example, because of his height he was overlooked, when he had his chance he won brownlow, recruiter have to look harder and stop being sheep, there is gold in them hills you just have to look for it.

Also i think more 21 22 year old players need to be recruited,lots of kids are not as good at 18 as they are at 21,there has been lots of good player over looked. at 18

Good to see you back Vince. Haven't seen you around here in a while.

Cheers