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Anybody else see Clint Bartram Vs Heath Scotland in the handball competition on Channels 9's "The Sunday Footy Show" today?

His first left hand handball missed all the scoring area and was actually lucky to hit the rotating target at all! :wacko:

Poor buggar was highly embarrassed but copped the ribbing from the hosts on the chin.

IMO, pretty well sums up Melbournes performances over the last 3 years I reckon! <_<

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When he was drafted I recall Cameron saying he would have been a top 15 draft pick if it weren't for his kicking skills. This is good enough reason why he shouldn't have been drafted to our club nor should a lot of other players that had suspect disposal during their junior days.

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Yeah, obivously 'would have been top 15 if not for X' is a good reason to pass on someone at pick 64.

Just like you, I love writing guys off after less than 30 games, it makes all my own inadequacies a little easier to ignore.

But I think you may have 'twisted' it once too often there.

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Given time I think he could get back to the way he played in the first season.

Time to settle into his role, time to gain confidence

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Anybody else see Clint Bartram Vs Heath Scotland in the handball competition on Channels 9's "The Sunday Footy Show" today?

His first left hand handball missed all the scoring area and was actually lucky to hit the rotating target at all! :wacko:

Poor buggar was highly embarrassed but copped the ribbing from the hosts on the chin.

IMO, pretty well sums up Melbournes performances over the last 3 years I reckon! <_<

Dont know if one can really sum up a football teams performance over the past few years, with one poor handball on a television program..??

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Didn't start this thread for anyone to have a crack at Bartram for 1 second. It was a funny moment of which I thought was ironic.

Bartram is a gutsy footballer who never stops. 99% of the time he gets the oppositions best player and has to sacrifice his own game to negate them.

Don't know about his stats yesterday, but watched him absolutely negate Boomer Harvey in Round 1.

There are a lot of others who could learn from his work ethic - IMO.

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Yeah, obivously 'would have been top 15 if not for X' is a good reason to pass on someone at pick 64.

Just like you, I love writing guys off after less than 30 games, it makes all my own inadequacies a little easier to ignore.

But I think you may have 'twisted' it once too often there.

He's played 46 games idiot.


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He's played 46 games idiot.

Oops. Well, please feel free to revise my earleir comment to "writing players off before their 50th game". I see how that is a major difference, yeah.

Doesn't change my point - a player needs to be genuinely poor before they deserve to be written off this early in an inteerupted career.

Bartram has been an effective tagger and has excellent fitness, courage and determination. His disposal isn't any worse than much of the team, and he is often in positions of intense pressure because that is the place he is expected to be - these aren't soft kick-marks we're talking about, he's generally on the opposition's most dangerous small forward/midfielder.

I'd have no problem if someone said 'probably needs a run at Casey until he can improve his confidence and disposal a bit, but to write him off? Bleah.

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Oops. Well, please feel free to revise my earleir comment to "writing players off before their 50th game". I see how that is a major difference, yeah.

Doesn't change my point - a player needs to be genuinely poor before they deserve to be written off this early in an inteerupted career.

Bartram has been an effective tagger and has excellent fitness, courage and determination. His disposal isn't any worse than much of the team, and he is often in positions of intense pressure because that is the place he is expected to be - these aren't soft kick-marks we're talking about, he's generally on the opposition's most dangerous small forward/midfielder.

I'd have no problem if someone said 'probably needs a run at Casey until he can improve his confidence and disposal a bit, but to write him off? Bleah.

He has a career kicking efficiency of 68.7%

Besides Marc Murphy im struggling to find a player thats played as many games with a worse return.

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Anybody else see Clint Bartram Vs Heath Scotland in the handball competition on Channels 9's "The Sunday Footy Show" today?

His first left hand handball missed all the scoring area and was actually lucky to hit the rotating target at all! :wacko:

I just shook my head sadly and thought "It had be to us, didn't it".

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He has a career kicking efficiency of 68.7%

Besides Marc Murphy im struggling to find a player thats played as many games with a worse return.

Then it's a good thing he is a tagger.

Some people are getting caught up in the icing, we have to be concerned about the cake - Our midfield went missing for a half on Saturday and it killed us.

Let's worry about Batram's ability to deliver the footy over 35 metres when we win the contested footy, the clearances, and the tackle count.

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