Long time reader rare poster, however coming up on 2009 I would like to comment on some of the things on here I understand frustration after all I am a Demons supporter however every year I cough up $500 for my membership (14 years now I'm 30) I go to all the games I can (I work shift work) and like all that post on this site I love this club to the ends of the earth.

I just believe the negativity of some posters on this site (you know who you are) is counter productive, I attended the debt demolition lunch and sat there listening and when Schwabby spoke I got goose bumps. We need unity like a fat kid needs cake need it be out there with our beloved club or here within our beloved site we all need to pull in the same direction otherwise we are pulling apart.

I know many out there will criticize this post or dismiss it all together but before you do think about this.. Do you truly believe in your hearts that players don't give 100% when they are out there playing? Or that the club hire coaching staff that have no idea how to coach?

But by all means vent your frustrations on Demonland forums thats what it's her for but just take a deep breath before you post after a 10 goal loss and there will be be more to come but think about it... would you ever condemn you partner who you love in the same way you try to rip the heart out of the club with crude comments? Being a faceless poster can mean in your head you can get away with saying crap you wouldn't usually get away with in public. Just think before you post is all I ask.

Long time reader rare poster, however coming up on 2009 I would like to comment on some of the things on here I understand frustration after all I am a Demons supporter however every year I cough up $500 for my membership (14 years now I'm 30) I go to all the games I can (I work shift work) and like all that post on this site I love this club to the ends of the earth.

I just believe the negativity of some posters on this site (you know who you are) is counter productive, I attended the debt demolition lunch and sat there listening and when Schwabby spoke I got goose bumps. We need unity like a fat kid needs cake need it be out there with our beloved club or here within our beloved site we all need to pull in the same direction otherwise we are pulling apart.

I know many out there will criticize this post or dismiss it all together but before you do think about this.. Do you truly believe in your hearts that players don't give 100% when they are out there playing? Or that the club hire coaching staff that have no idea how to coach?

But by all means vent your frustrations on Demonland forums thats what it's her for but just take a deep breath before you post after a 10 goal loss and there will be be more to come but think about it... would you ever condemn you partner who you love in the same way you try to rip the heart out of the club with crude comments? Being a faceless poster can mean in your head you can get away with saying crap you wouldn't usually get away with in public. Just think before you post is all I ask.

Demonland is a supporters forum which is there for all supporters to let off steam from time to time (as I just did when I kicked the thread about the International Rules farce off the footy message board to the other sports board). That means they're allowed to get things off their chests even if they happen to be negative.

However, I agree with what you say about the defeatist attitude of some supporters. The only way you ever win in any sport or any undertaking is if you go into it with a positive attitude.

You can't fix a problem without acknowledging it. People are so "negative" because they care too much imo. If they didn't, they would just sit back and not care about the problems. That's not saying that all people who are positive don't care, but I'm just saying that it's OK to criticize sometimes.

would you ever condemn you partner who you love in the same way you try to rip the heart out of the club with crude comments? .

Yes.

On the one hand, I appreciate that it's a place for burning off steam.

On the other hand, I'm a little sick of a few things, the overstatements, the mindless slagging of players, the 'you obviously know nothing about football' comments people aim at eachother.

Anyway, online, I can deal with these things, they are pretty easy to just pass over.

But at club functions...

That story related on here about mid-season, where someone came to an aftermatch event completely smashed and then spent the function loudly abusing the players. That's not on. That damages the club, drives away other supporters (especially kids and their parents), demoralises the players, and ruins whole events for the club.

At an event, drunken raving is very hard to avoid - even once security has removed them or someone has managed to cool them down, that one idiot shapes the whole atmosphere.

What people need to realise, online, at games, and at functions, is that this kind of behaviour is just BEING A SOOK.

It makes you a pathetic, annoying, full-of-yourself WHINING LOSER. It's the ultimate experession of embracing mediocrity.

HARDEN THE F$#% UP.

That story related on here about mid-season, where someone came to an aftermatch event completely smashed and then spent the function loudly abusing the players. That's not on. That damages the club, drives away other supporters (especially kids and their parents), demoralises the players, and ruins whole events for the club.

At an event, drunken raving is very hard to avoid - even once security has removed them or someone has managed to cool them down, that one idiot shapes the whole atmosphere.

What's all that about? I've never heard that before. ...

What's all that about? I've never heard that before. ...

As I've been told, there's not much more to the story than is already noted above - just some guy decided to have a go at the players who came to one of the routine after match functions this year. Not a big issue in itself, since it's not a constant occurance, but that's pretty weak behaviour, and I'm reminded of it every time I see people launching into semi-coherent, obviously drunk after-match rants.

I see these rants at the local club/pub when I watch games there - sometimes loud and trying to tell everyone about it like it's their fault, sometimes it'll be a guy on a mobile having a long and boring monologue about how 'they were all crap, except for X player that I told you was good, but the rest should all be sacked'.

We all have it in us a little, we all do it sometimes, it's just a way of 'processing', as the trauma counsellors would say. But it's important to keep the ugly edge off it and know when to just hold firm.