Possible Deal?

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Brad Green + pick 19 to Port Adelaide

Pick 4 to Melbourne

Mark Jamar + pick 51 to West Coast

Mark Seaby to Melbourne

Pick 1 - Jack Watts

Pick 4 - Vickery

Pick 17 -

Pick 37 -

Seaby -

Etc

Etc

PSD pick 1 -

that would give us tall timber for the next ten years!!!!

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Wow.

It just never ends.

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no it doesnt and it would be nice hot god wouldnt it!!!!

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But just answer me, why did this need a new thread?

There are about 17 already, many saying similar things. Why couldn't you just put it there?

Not to mention, why would you want Seaby? He'll be 25 next year anyway, I don't see his slow frame running around the park in 2018

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I would only want Seaby if we could get Vickery!!!

PJ and Vickery

with Seaby as the back up..... and if need be as a forward!!!!

better than Jamar and Meeson......

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Wont Happen.

Port would need something more than Brad Green/Aaron Davey for Pick #4 - which is set to get you one of:

Watts, Natanui, Rich, Hurley.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Wont Happen.

Port would need something more than Brad Green/Aaron Davey for Pick #4 - which is set to get you one of:

Watts, Natanui, Rich, Hurley.

Agreed.

Green/Davey for pick #4 is so imbalanced...its dumb. No side will part with such a pick for a couple of NQRs.

Also WCE want a first round for Seaby.....tell them their dreaming. So pick 51 plus Jamar is just pick 51. Given they have Cox Staker and possibly an interest in Niknat, why would they want Jamar?

There also appears to be little logic in suggesting that if we got Vickery we would get Seaby. If we get Vickery then as a big man he is unlikely to command a regular AFL spot for two years.

And Seaby and PJ as a ruck combination would not even strike fear into a team of dwarfs.

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If we get Vickery then as a big man he is unlikely to command a regular AFL spot for two years.

Not so fast.

Vickery is expected to play regular senior footy next year - source: St. Kilda Board member

[Guest paxino27]

Caroll and pick 51 to Hawthorn

Pick 50 to Melbourne

Green to Sydney

O'Keefe to Hawthorn

Pick 16 to Melbourne

Jamar pick 35 and 67 to Fremantle

Pick 21 to Melbourne

DRAFT PICKS:

1. Watts

16. Blease

17. Johnston

19. Roughead

21. Zaharakis

50. Lee

PSD:

1. Warnock

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Not so fast.

Vickery is expected to play regular senior footy next year - source: St. Kilda Board member

Perhaps they'd be playing him as a forward in which he is more than capable.

King/Kosi in the ruck with McEvoy in the wings waiting to develop.

Vickery as a KP Foward who has occaisional stints in the ruck - essentially taking the place of Kosi.

It's similar to what Carlton are doing with Matthew Kreuzer, they intend on killing 2 birds with 1 stone - by recruiting Warnock.

They lack a forward and a lead ruckman, hence by obtaining Warnock he and Hampson play as ruckmen whilst Kreuzer plays as a forward.

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Caroll and pick 51 to Hawthorn

Pick 50 to Melbourne

Sadly Pax, we'd have to give up Carroll and pick 17 in return for pick 50, just in order for someone to take Carroll onto their list. I'd hoped we could do something like what you've suggested a little while ago, but there is just no way any club would want Carroll and his extensive baggage.

On a simliar premise, I'm staggered at the interest in another cuckoo in Andrew Lovett.

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Not so fast.

Vickery is expected to play regular senior footy next year - source: St. Kilda Board member

Unless you want to cripple a 17/18 yo who is still growing into his body, I would suggest anything more than a cameo game or two in the first year and up to 10 games in 2010 is more likely and reasonable.

I would rate Big Footy as a more reliable source than a St Kilda Board member and I dont rate Big Footy at all.

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Sadly Pax, we'd have to give up Carroll and pick 17 in return for pick 50, just in order for someone to take Carroll onto their list. I'd hoped we could do something like what you've suggested a little while ago, but there is just no way any club would want Carroll and his extensive baggage.

On a simliar premise, I'm staggered at the interest in another cuckoo in Andrew Lovett.

I would suggest we would have to give up pick 1 and 17 to get rid of Carroll.

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Greg Denham was on SEN with KB earlier this morning and had to choke back laughter when KB asked if Carroll was going to be traded. He didn't provide any answers on whether there had been any progress in the process of getting rid of him.

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http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl...2-19742,00.html

i can smell a 2nd round pick + R Shaw!!!

that would annoy me but i know the MFC want picks....

i doubt they will give us pick 11 coz they told sydney they wouldnt for ROK and he is probably better than green.....

cmon melbourne lets do some dealing!!!!

maybe a 2nd round and a 3rd round pick???

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I would rate Big Footy as a more reliable source than a St Kilda Board member and I dont rate Big Footy at all.

Great.

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And about Lovett, why on earth would we be interested in him. Other then Warnock, Prismall or Ray Melbourne should only be focusing on better draft picks. Not a player with possibly even more baggage then Carroll!

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http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl...2-19742,00.html

Reading the quotes from Geoff Walsh in that link, it comes accross as if Brad Green doesn't know whether he wants to leave or stay. For god's sake Dees if he's contemplating on leaving and considering turning his back on the club that gave him an opportunity, at the age of 27 - going 28, just trade him.

Girls must think he's an absolute nightmare at the movies when they ask him what flavoured Choc Top he wants....they'd miss the opening credits of the movie!

edit: Collingwood's 2nd pick is 29 by the way. This is around Green's market value. I would prefer early 20's, but in this draft, pick 29 could be just about it.

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Unless you want to cripple a 17/18 yo who is still growing into his body, I would suggest anything more than a cameo game or two in the first year and up to 10 games in 2010 is more likely and reasonable.

I would rate Big Footy as a more reliable source than a St Kilda Board member and I dont rate Big Footy at all.

Obviously you would not rate a St. Kilda board member, who has direct conversations with the recruiting officer.

Why would you, how could you....when the only person you rate is yourself!

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Obviously you would not rate a St. Kilda board member, who has direct conversations with the recruiting officer.

Why would you, how could you....when the only person you rate is yourself!

Apart from your snide attack, I am puzzled what a St Kilda Board member talking to a recruiting officer can become such an authority to suggest that 17/18 yo tall will become a regular player when over the past 10 years it is shown that such young talls are not ready and cannot sustain the physical rigours of AFL football. Also it will depend upon at which club Vickery ends up as well.

But glad you are easily impressed.

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Girls must think he's an absolute nightmare at the movies when they ask him what flavoured Choc Top he wants....they'd miss the opening credits of the movie!

He is married, so it would be his wife missing the credits.

BTW what flavour choc top do you prefer, I like chocolate all the way?

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He is married, so it would be his wife missing the credits.

BTW what flavour choc top do you prefer, I like chocolate all the way?

Vanilla myself.

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Apart from your snide attack, I am puzzled what a St Kilda Board member talking to a recruiting officer can become such an authority to suggest that 17/18 yo tall will become a regular player when over the past 10 years it is shown that such young talls are not ready and cannot sustain the physical rigours of AFL football. Also it will depend upon at which club Vickery ends up as well.

But glad you are easily impressed.

I am deeply unimpressed, you have made a blanket assertion and displayed arrogance.

The authority relied upon is the St. Kilda recruiting officer, thats a professional's educated opinion as to Vickery's capabilities and prospects.

The feedback is that Vickery has the physical strength required to play regular AFL next year, add to that his ability to play forward as well as ruck increases his prospects of doing so.

Your blanket opinion is that every young tall is not ready and cannot sustain the rigours of AFL Football. Whilst the general assertion is fair, there are exceptions, you will note that a certain Nathan Brown at the Pies did rather well, and Vickery is tipped to be another exception.

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If the St. Kilda board member got the info from their recruiting officer in John Beveridge - then i'd probably laugh at whatever info he told you about Vickery.

Beveridge is the most overrated Recruiter going around.

He's lauded for his #1 selections in Riewoldt (no brainer) and Goddard (courtesy of Carlton).

But then he's botched their first rounders with picks like McQualter, trading for Fergus Watts, Barry Brooks etc.

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.... there are exceptions, you will note that a certain Nathan Brown at the Pies...

I think that Nathan Brown played his first game in 2008 but was drafted in 2006 so he isnt really an example of someone who was up to senior football straight away