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Why would you bring someone into a club that has a self-centered personality? Plus he's lost his speed and isnt the best decision maker. Might be time he looks to entering polictics as thats what he's always wanted to do isnt it? NEXT!

he got countered offered by footy vic to stay when speaking to him originally he said the club had been very professional in their dealings and felt a little bad on renegging on the deal but felt he had unfinished business with the dragons

looking at sunday was dismal. we had no legs and there were just too few 2nd efforts. we looked lazy and unfit i personally dont rate BB but he is there because they feel he can do the job - also because he signed a 2yr deal from my understanding last yr. he got the ass from hawthorn due to much of an athletic/sprint focus which in turn lead to thier high soft tissue injury rate. i know they've changed thier fitness focus to more ball/ground based fitness work but not sure how well BB has been able to implement this. we have a good developing list and i think DB will rid this bloke at yrs end.

i think he will do a good job. worked with him in his final yr at eastern ranges and is very switched on in relation to the strengths and weaknesses of the younger players. from my understanding he was a recruiting consultant at north where he helped them about 2 years ago prior to coming over to melbourne in a coaching capacity.

you also need to put into perspective that you can not delist all. you need to look ahead a little and plan for 09 as well - hence we need to keep a few of these players so that there is turnover next year, rather than having a mass exodus/culling this year with delisting next year of at least 3 players. i dont think this years draft is overly strong from what ive been told so there is no point us going out and getting a lot of late picks who could well end up being off the list in 2-3yrs and leaving us next year and in 09, struggling to cover if injuries or players dont come on as expected. time will tell if we delist any more but at this stage i think they have done the right thing.

Yep you're right! That's where u need a fitness advisor who takes all of it into account. There's no real correlation as to who gets it more - some blokes will be top heavy build wise and their lower limbs cant handle the amount they have to carry for their age. Others just don't have any control of their core area, leading to a delay in TVA which can lead to OP and most of them go home, slouch on the couch, or in their seat at school and have poor posture because of it. A good physio or exercise physiologist will help retrain the core muscles, surgery is usually a last option. not sure how one can say prevention is more effective than cure once someone has it, but a structured physical preparation program covering core, weights and appropriate athletic conditioning methods should be suffice. if you do your weights properly, then the core muscles should be the first to switch on to help stabilise the body- you can test ureself when u walk and feel it activate by having your hands near ure hips and feeling ure tummy wall tighten. Squats and lunges are 2 of the most important lower limb exercises to help establish proper muscle function of the lower limbs. how can one get faster or learn to stabilse them selves around the hip region if they can not perform these adequately? rest does work as it reduces the amount of inflammation in the area - its usually only a tempory measure though as once they bump their training load back up, you get inflammation back into the area. hence the need for retraining of the muscles or surgery if the problem persists. I'm sure each player gets body screened each year or more often so they can prevent these from happening. all prospective draftees do if they attend the AIS camp. Players who have it also need to be on a limited kicking program, as kicking across the body doesn't help the problem once diagnosed with it. Weight training of the lower limbs helps with conditioning the body to handle stress through the lower limbs as well as ligament and joint stability. too many players get too top heavy, putting stress through the lower limbs and end up not having the strength base to handle the loads imposed. I'm sorry i just cant see how banning lower limb weight training will not cause op. please dont tell me u only get ure players to do upper body weights only, especially when injured in the lower limb regions- that would be a problem within itself of trying to get rid of such issues as op. Remember - train the movement not the repetition, as repetition is trained by movement!

I think he has tried to implement what he believes works,which was the same at Hawthorn but it hasn't worked again this year. His methods are too speed based, there needs to be a balance which he needs to find for the players. Campbell brown - didn't know how to run and was very slow at 16 and 17, thats when BB worked with him. Banning weight training of the lower limbs - show us the research that shows that this causes op - (its been shown that a lack of/delay in the Transverse Abdominis muscle, is a cause of groin related pain.) Weight training of the lower limbs is fundamental to power/speed development, and also doing weight training on the lower limbs especially helps proper core functioning and control around the hips/glutes. if this is done properly, then op and other niggles such as patella tendonitis shouldnt occur. Hence u need the weight training to make sure those muscles, especially the glutes, deep abdominals and low back muslces are functioning properly. sorry JUMPING JACK CLENNETT ure theory just doesnt stand up. Any bloke I had who was suffering from op, worked on thier lower limbs to establish control in the later stages of return to play.

Yeah, he has another year to run on his contract. I'd like him to go, but it won't happen. Let's be honest, some of our soft tissue injuries such as hamstring soreness and missing games happening to our younger group, is not a good sign. We were unlucky with some injuries in games but there seemed to be too high a isoft tissue njury list from training occurring. His background is athletics and he trained Hawthorn and us like we are sprinters. This is why they had such a high injury rate when he was thier advisor back then. Look at the guy at st kilda a few years back, he did the same thing and that's why he got the arse. Football isn't a game of sprinting, it's a speed endurance based game. you can't train footballers to be sprinters, footballers need to be trained to run and kick, not kick and run as we have. I've also studied in this area and worked in it for 7 years at various junior clubs including Eastern Ranges for 5 years with the fitness and rehab. I'm no guru but I think I've learnt a little over this time and would I want a job at this level, nah not on your life. Your head is the first to go before the coaches! Anyhow, lets see what happens this pre season coming as Bailey has already spoken to him about his thoughts on it all.

also look at the amount of hamstring and other 'soreness defined injuries' matches missed by the young ones. there were a few throughout the year. kids under 25 shouldn't be getting these sort of injuries, especially hamstring related. we had too many soft tissue related injuries throughout the season which could be a possible cause of our high injury rate - yes we were unlucky in some games, but when you have a fitness advisor who has an athletics background and trains them like sprinters, then you are bound for problems. it happened at hawthorn and it looks a little similar to us this year. footballers are not sprinters, footballers need to be able to repeatedly run at various stages for 120mins. i wouldn't say we are one of the fittest sides in the comp, nor the quickest, hence we still have a bit of work to do in this area. bhoden still has a year to run on his contract from what ive been told, so i guess we can judge him more at this time next year.

i think he may have been provoked once but generally he was pretty good on the field and tended to hold his ground. he had a few issues around him early on in the year. i dont think him working as a trainee at the club really helped him either.

its an interesting one. will need a lot of TLC as he went walkabout mid yr at eastern a couple of times. having worked with the kid he is quick, good skills and has that aboriginal magic. if he gets himself sorted mentally then the sky is the limit

from my understanding he wasnt there as the 'one in charge' for ten years and im pretty sure he was only there for about 5 years all up. i heard him present and he comes across quite well, very based on the russian periodisation model which is still used today by almost all phys prep people. i have no doubt he has a lot to bring to the club but i question some of his training methods, especially as mentioned by drdrake that he has a sprinting/athletics background. getting players to do triathlons and run 100m sprints at athletics events over the preseason isn't football based fitness training. the reason paul ford got pushed in 04 before glen turner came along was partly due to amping up players running loads by up to 15k a week mid season, hence maybe why we faded so bad in lead up to finals. to me that is just plain stupid. there is no fitness like game fitness. a lot of 'running out of legs' has to do with the mental aspect that is within the player. this is also why there has been a big shift to recovery interventions and measures to ensure players are coming up each week. i hope im making sense and i also hope he has seen light of his past mistakes and has changed his perspective on physically preparing footballers.

yes this is my first post but seeming the topic of physical preparation came up i had to register and have my say as this is my area of work. personally im not too sure on his appointment. i thought glen turner had done a pretty good job with the development of our strength and conditioning and was surprised to see him go. we still have a pretty young list and there would be some good development to come from the playing group with another preseason under their belt. the reason hawthorn got rid of him was due to the high soft tissue injury rate. i got told this by thier head trainer of hawthorn who used to work at eastern ranges - i worked there for 4 and half years myself as a fitness advisor and rehab coordinator before moving out on my own to focus on a more sports science testing service. bohdan trains players to be not only athletes, but sprinters. imho, in AFL you can't have that - players need to be fast yes, but also have a strong aerobic and waste removal capacity that will allow them to do repeated efforts of high work for up to 120minutes. funnily enough training footballers to be fit, strong and injury prevented isnt rocket science, its pretty simple stuff. I hope he has changed his methods on how to train players because if not we will be in some trouble.