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I see it differently D11. Just because Clark was a bust also, doesn't mean we got value for Lumumba. He has been a failure any way you look at it, especially considering Jason Taylors record since landing with us. I would love to see who he would have chosen at that pick.

I thought we overpaid for him personally, although I suspect you are correct, in that our 3rd rd pick was never going to be enough. I always factored in the VERY high likelihood that he would serve a suspension for drugs. I was always confident that the good guys would win, once it was out of the afl's slimy hands. Oops, we also overpaid for Lamumba, and most definitely Dawes.

And that's the way it should be, but recent experience, and essedon's dodo, caution me otherwise. I hope Redleg is correct.

We wont. We never do. I can see it being next years first pick. I think he will let his strong personal relationship with Hibberd cloud his judgement. Hope I'm wrong, but I don't expect to be. This years second rounder should be more than enough.

I would love to have known if Goody would have done something different yesterday. Anyway, next weeks game is a dead rubber. Character test for the team. Will they turn up, or have their heads spinning for mad monday?

Just as so many here would have said it's a blessing in disguise to have lost our first final, should we have made it through. Give a team hope and they can perform wonders. But to resist making changes yesterday that seemed to have a massive effect on the outcome, was not good enough imo. (if that's what actually happened.) And every team seems to make up the numbers if they finish 8th. That's about where we will finish next year, unless some teams implode. I wont be thinking it was good to just miss out again, if that's what happens. I was also hanging on to the finals hope for things like memberships etc. We need every boost we can get, to reach where we all aspire. *maybe mods can move all of this talk, so we dont ruin the Hibberd thread.

Mach, if Roos was prepared to lose a game that would see us miss our first opportunity at finals for a decade, just to see if the players would make a move themselves, I would be seriously pizzed. It doesn't take an entire game to know they are not going to make the move themselves, and we have video reviews for just that thing anyway. To me, winning was the only thing that mattered yesterday. It wasn't a classroom day, it was a day to get the points. Nothing more, nothing less.

That sounds like a massive copout. We "empowered" Roos to the tune of $1.5m per year to do a job. It takes all of a couple of seconds to pick up a phone and say "Vince to Gibbs, hard tag"

If it seems fair to us, you can bet it wont seem fair to the drug cheats. Must be a great offer on the table from us to shake one of them from the tree.

1: Close to value, so I cant see it happening with dodo involved (second thoughts, they may be expecting us to finish higher next year, after priority/compo picks are involved.) 2: they will value Hibberd MUCH higher than Salem, not the other way around. 3: Grimes for ANYONE is pie in the sky, even including pick 46. We haven't played him all year.

It was Mitch Robinson who said that wasn't it? McLean tried to dob us in for tanking.

We certainly look like having one of the hardest edge sides going around, in the not too distant future. Bloody hell that's great after the decades of being among the softest.

Is that your word, or something from inside either club?

Gold Coast are nuts if they give away 2 early first round picks for Fyfe. Haven't they learned their lesson with their injury decimated midfield this year? Why spend such valuable draft currency on someone who has a shocking recent injury history? It's the very definition of high risk / high reward, but I wouldn't be taking the chance, particularly if this draft is the high talent one its rumoured to be.

He wasn't under the same pressure as the inside mids, but it's nice to see someone who can hit a target after getting the ball in space. Yes, I'm looking at you M.Jones. I think Stretch will be one of our top 10 players once he matures.

Some people refuse to take of the rose colored glasses stu. but, but, but, we are GOING to be so good! We were a young team when we were playing all of our early draftees during the Baily/Neeld years, and what happened then?

Smacks of the Tigers trying to recruit anyone of note, even if it doesn't actually fit into any forward planning at all. Panic recruiting. Look at our shiny new recruit, aren't we the best!! Dumb Brisbane, just dumb

That's the issue though Wise. Why not throw that cash at a bloke who will play good footy, and will be around longer? McDonald would be a great idea for them. Even, dare I say it Watts. Josh Jenkins? Nah, I really don't get what they are trying to do, if that cash is even close to being correct.

Like Jamar? You dont pay that sort of cash unless the bloke is a star. How desperate is Brisbane? My god.

Yeah, so did I. I even fell for our pre-season form, and had a few pesos on us making the 8. *sigh*

But we haven't been belted weekly SWYL. And we wont know if Melksham's recruitment has hurt us, before he has played a single game. (yes, I know I said differently last year) maybe you will see melky come in and be a mainstay from day 1. He certainly fits with the "take no schit" players we have picked up recently. I know I campaigned heavily against picking him up, but now that he is ours, I cant wait to see him knocking people ars over head, across the half back line.

If I was the tackler, I wouldn't bat an eyelid. Cheating coward.

5 year offer on big money for Hooker hey? Pencil in picks 2 AND 3 for the drug cheats in the next draft. Bastards. Agree that with the big offers around for KPP's, and the need to re sign Fyfe, that it seems like a difficult task for Freo to fit Hogan into the salary cap, even if he did want to move in a couple of years. Its all good news for us. I think he will stay.

Yes he is.

I will take your word on that. Don't want to hijack the MCC thread, but does anyone have info on whether Oliver will play on ball, or will he play across half forward this week?